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Posted by: Burtonik Oct 20 2014, 09:52 AM
I may just be ranting here, but is anyone else just as dissapointed as I am that Shigeno never wrote a rematch between Takumi and Keisuke?

I mean, they mentioned their rematch twice in the series, but it never came to happening. I've been waiting for that rematch through the entire series. It's one of the only reasons I persevered through the boring/tedious 5th/final stage because I anticipated a rematch somewhere in the end.

Posted by: Team Evolution Oct 20 2014, 12:23 PM
Initial D did die at the End of Stage 4, fifth and final are pretty boring crap..

Posted by: Gunma's 34 Oct 20 2014, 05:34 PM
It ended up as some lame excuse of a Deus Ex that destroyed the series.

Posted by: HyperSonic Oct 20 2014, 06:08 PM
Yeah ID died pretty much at 4th stage. The 5th stage is just a good way to explain the meaning of the "D" in Project D and the last stage is just a way to end the hype they might have accidentally built at the 5th stage.

Posted by: Falbere Oct 20 2014, 06:17 PM
Would you like to read my fanfiction?

Racing down Akagi, Keisuke stepped on the accelerator without hesitation. In his rear view mirror, an Impreza. Keisuke had never felt so much stress racing on Akagi. He is not just racing a 4WD, but also the only opponent he have yet to defeat.

Suddenly Takumi shouts, "FUK DIS SHIET IM TURNING ON HAX" and the Impreza started teleporting forward. It clipped into the FD and Keisuke, causing them to instantly dematerialize. All that was left is a strand of Keisuke's hair.

Takumi, who is left with zero concentration after unleashing his ultimate power on Keisuke, faints in the Imp, still doing 140KM/H. He crashed down the cliff and died a fiery end.

The End.

Posted by: Gunma's 34 Oct 20 2014, 06:31 PM
QUOTE (dummyinthecity @ 14 minutes, 49 seconds ago)
Would you like to read my fanfiction?

Racing down Akagi, Keisuke stepped on the accelerator without hesitation. In his rear view mirror, an Impreza. Keisuke had never felt so much stress racing on Akagi. He is not just racing a 4WD, but also the only opponent he have yet to defeat.

Suddenly Takumi shouts, "FUK DIS SHIET IM TURNING ON HAX" and the Impreza started teleporting forward. It clipped into the FD and Keisuke, causing them to instantly dematerialize. All that was left is a strand of Keisuke's hair.

Takumi, who is left with zero concentration after unleashing his ultimate power on Keisuke, faints in the Imp, still doing 140KM/H. He crashed down the cliff and died a fiery end.

The End.

^ FANFIC OF THE YEAR. Shigeno. Get this man.

Posted by: Crono0001 Oct 22 2014, 11:22 AM
I agree with you that, as far as the anime goes, Initial D really got dumbed down after 4th stage. I loved 4th stage, but 5th stage and final stage were very lackluster. But this isn't Shigeno's fault. It's the fault of whoever animated the 5th stage and final stage.

In terms of the manga, there are no 'stages' or separations in the series. It's one long on-going series, and the races in the Kanagawa prefecture were actually VERY exciting in the Manga. It just didn't translate well to the anime.

Shigeno actually addressed this specific issue in the last chapter, where Keisuke, drunk, asks the team if they want to see who is faster between him and Takumi. The team replied in unison that nobody cared. He then challenged Takumi to a race, where Takumi complained he didn't have a car. Keisuke points to the Impreza, and Takumi (also drunk) says it would be unfair because that car is too fast. This causes the two of them to get into a friendly scuffle.

The moral of the story is, Shigeno wants to point out that it doesn't matter who is faster at this point, as they both achieve their dreams.

It's kind of like the Bunta vs. Ken scenario, which in turn reflects real life. Out of 100 matches, if one person wins 54 matches, does it really 'matter' who is better?



What REALLY bothers me (that Shigeno IS to blame for), was Bunta saying "well, this is the last thing I can do for Takumi" and then NEVER MENTIONS WHAT IT IS AGAIN.

Posted by: BOZZ Oct 27 2014, 12:22 PM
QUOTE (Crono0001 @ Oct 22 2014, 03:22 PM)
I agree with you that, as far as the anime goes, Initial D really got dumbed down after 4th stage. I loved 4th stage, but 5th stage and final stage were very lackluster. But this isn't Shigeno's fault. It's the fault of whoever animated the 5th stage and final stage.

In terms of the manga, there are no 'stages' or separations in the series. It's one long on-going series, and the races in the Kanagawa prefecture were actually VERY exciting in the Manga. It just didn't translate well to the anime.

Shigeno actually addressed this specific issue in the last chapter, where Keisuke, drunk, asks the team if they want to see who is faster between him and Takumi. The team replied in unison that nobody cared. He then challenged Takumi to a race, where Takumi complained he didn't have a car. Keisuke points to the Impreza, and Takumi (also drunk) says it would be unfair because that car is too fast. This causes the two of them to get into a friendly scuffle.

The moral of the story is, Shigeno wants to point out that it doesn't matter who is faster at this point, as they both achieve their dreams.

It's kind of like the Bunta vs. Ken scenario, which in turn reflects real life. Out of 100 matches, if one person wins 54 matches, does it really 'matter' who is better?



What REALLY bothers me (that Shigeno IS to blame for), was Bunta saying "well, this is the last thing I can do for Takumi" and then NEVER MENTIONS WHAT IT IS AGAIN.

At the very least he could have had the two of them race like the Ryosuke-Takumi race from Third Stage where you don't see a winner...

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Oct 27 2014, 04:06 PM
QUOTE (Crono0001 @ Oct 22 2014, 03:22 PM)
and the races in the Kanagawa prefecture were actually VERY exciting in the Manga.  It just didn't translate well to the anime.

Weren't all of the races pretty much the same?

The only thing I can think of that was different was they didn't show what the Roadster bumped the spoiler on in the anime. All you heard was the sound. Besides that, all of the other races seemed just as boring as they were in the manga.

The one thing the manga had on the anime was all of the story related scenes. The anime was such a rush job that they excluded a bunch. Like Takumi and Mika going to the beach, Yuuichi driving the Impreza, Bunta and Kogashiwa meeting up by the lake.. etc etc

Posted by: BOZZ Oct 27 2014, 05:51 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ 1 hour, 45 minutes ago)
Weren't all of the races pretty much the same?

The only thing I can think of that was different was they didn't show what the Roadster bumped the spoiler on in the anime. All you heard was the sound. Besides that, all of the other races seemed just as boring as they were in the manga.

The one thing the manga had on the anime was all of the story related scenes. The anime was such a rush job that they excluded a bunch. Like Takumi and Mika going to the beach, Yuuichi driving the Impreza, Bunta and Kogashiwa meeting up by the lake.. etc etc

When did Yuuichi end up driving the Impreza? As for the beach bit, it would've been neat to see the way Takumi handled bypassing an accident in an animated form.

Posted by: MonkeyWrenchd Oct 28 2014, 07:06 AM
Bunta and Kogashiwa meeting should have been included in the anime. It was pretty funny when Bunta asked Kogashiwa if he wanted to challenge Bunta again because Bunta himself will accept the challenge and Kogashiwa saying Bunta is cheating for bringing the Impreza lol.

Yuuichi driving the Impreza is included in the final episodes of 4th stage with himself saying to Bunta how fun the car is.

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Posted by: BOZZ Oct 28 2014, 12:33 PM
QUOTE (MonkeyWrenchd @ 5 hours, 26 minutes ago)
Bunta and Kogashiwa meeting should have been included in the anime. It was pretty funny when Bunta asked Kogashiwa if he wanted to challenge Bunta again because Bunta himself will accept the challenge and Kogashiwa saying Bunta is cheating for bringing the Impreza lol.

Yuuichi driving the Impreza is included in the final episodes of 4th stage with himself saying to Bunta how fun the car is.

Oh, cause from the sound of the earlier post it wasn't included in the anime. I guess it was then.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Oct 28 2014, 01:09 PM
Woops.. You guys are right. It's been a while since I watched 4th Stage.

Posted by: shadow55419 Oct 28 2014, 01:17 PM
QUOTE (BOZZ @ Yesterday, 3:22 PM)
At the very least he could have had the two of them race like the Ryosuke-Takumi race from Third Stage where you don't see a winner...

would have been better than nothing, but i think it would have caused more trouble cause folk wanna see who would win :/

Posted by: HyperSonic Oct 29 2014, 01:22 AM
QUOTE (shadow55419 @ Yesterday, 1:17 PM)
would have been better than nothing, but i think it would have caused more trouble cause folk wanna see who would win :/

Yeah, I second that. Plus a rematch without a clear winner would sort of end like a tie for the readers/watchers. Then again, Takumi still has 2 wins under his belt against Keisuke and a tie if ever that rematch that doesn't show who wins actually happens. Besides, since the rematch is something we readers/watchers have been asking for, do you think they would include it in the Trilogy? I mean I am just speculating here. all those unanswered stuffs can show up there. Would they? facepalm.gif facepalm.gif

Posted by: BOZZ Oct 29 2014, 12:33 PM
QUOTE (HyperSonic @ Today, 5:22 AM)
Yeah, I second that. Plus a rematch without a clear winner would sort of end like a tie for the readers/watchers. Then again, Takumi still has 2 wins under his belt against Keisuke and a tie if ever that rematch that doesn't show who wins actually happens. Besides, since the rematch is something we readers/watchers have been asking for, do you think they would include it in the Trilogy? I mean I am just speculating here. all those unanswered stuffs can show up there. Would they? facepalm.gif facepalm.gif

True, but technically they only had one official race. As for the movie though, from the looks of it the trilogy won't cover Project D so I doubt they'd do a rematch between the two there.

Posted by: fettman53 Oct 30 2014, 12:54 AM
Well you see, the reason there was never a rematch was because Takumi would lose.

And we all know that in Initial D......THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.

So it never did.

Posted by: ghost of akina Nov 25 2014, 08:07 PM
Bumping a slightly old thread, solely because this has been a big disappointment for me. After watching this buildup of Initial D for over a decade I really feel like we were given a very mediocre ending at best. It's like watching Lord of the Rings but not seeing Frodo finally get the ring to wherever he was trying to go.

I really wanted to see a final race between Takumi and Keisuke; just the two of them and no one else around. That would have been the least they should have done, but also a Bunta race and/or a Ryosuke race would have been appropriate as well to please the fans.

I MEAN SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL WAS WITH FINAL STAGE!?!?!?


Here's my fanfic, may be too graphic for some younger viewers. My apologies as I'm very upset!
----------------------

Keisuke wants a rematch with Takumi but he repeatedly refuses. Keisuke comes to the brilliant realization that if he bangs Natsuki repeatedly this will make Takumi so upset that he will agree to the rematch. Keisuke's family is well off so Natsuki's starter fee is well within reason and Keisuke has no problem paying it (and even leaves a generous tip).

Keisuke and Takumi decide to do an endurance race that includes every course they've been on in the entire series. It takes 3 days to complete all the courses, where the find themselves neck and neck going into the final turn.

At this point they realize they both got AIDS from Natuski and will die anyway, so they really go all out on the final turn. Since they have been racing for several days they have no tires left and are running on bare wheel, this creates a spark and lights the cars on fire (Ryosuke explains the physics behind this in great detail). The both skid off the final turn and like a comet fly from the cliff into the abyss.

We see or hear no crash. Only Bunta remarking that it's likely the tofu will be charred.

Anyways Ryosuke and Bunta decide to race so that they can raise awareness for AIDS in memory of their lost ones (or so we think). They decide to race on FUJI super speedway because their awesome like that and figure it will raise the most for AIDS research.

Bunta wins easily. After the race Ryosuke approaches Bunta.

"Who are you again", says Ryosuke.
"I'm Bunta, Takumi's dad." Bunta says in response.
"Oh wow gee that's cool, funny how we never met"
"Yeah no shit" Bunta replies as he takes a puff from his cigarette (he eventually dies of lung cancer).

The race was widely covered by the press and they are able to raise enough money to cure AIDS.

The end! Don't you love happy endings?!

Posted by: fettman53 Nov 25 2014, 10:13 PM
Oh my goodness.

Well, in the words of Jeremy Clarkson:

"And there we are!"

Posted by: maxofsteam Nov 26 2014, 09:35 AM
I didn't really care for Keisuke vs Takumi anyways. I'd rather see Project D being challenged by some unknown stranger on Akina Pass and it turning out to be Bunta doing the downhill and uphill run.

Posted by: Falbere Nov 26 2014, 09:59 PM
I am proud of you, ghost of akina. This is way better than my fanfiction.

Posted by: eatsuki Oct 27 2016, 05:09 PM
QUOTE (ghost of akina @ Nov 25 2014, 08:07 PM)
Bumping a slightly old thread, solely because this has been a big disappointment for me. After watching this buildup of Initial D for over a decade I really feel like we were given a very mediocre ending at best. It's like watching Lord of the Rings but not seeing Frodo finally get the ring to wherever he was trying to go.

I really wanted to see a final race between Takumi and Keisuke; just the two of them and no one else around. That would have been the least they should have done, but also a Bunta race and/or a Ryosuke race would have been appropriate as well to please the fans.

I MEAN SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL WAS WITH FINAL STAGE!?!?!?


Here's my fanfic, may be too graphic for some younger viewers. My apologies as I'm very upset!
----------------------

Keisuke wants a rematch with Takumi but he repeatedly refuses. Keisuke comes to the brilliant realization that if he bangs Natsuki repeatedly this will make Takumi so upset that he will agree to the rematch. Keisuke's family is well off so Natsuki's starter fee is well within reason and Keisuke has no problem paying it (and even leaves a generous tip).

Keisuke and Takumi decide to do an endurance race that includes every course they've been on in the entire series. It takes 3 days to complete all the courses, where the find themselves neck and neck going into the final turn.

At this point they realize they both got AIDS from Natuski and will die anyway, so they really go all out on the final turn. Since they have been racing for several days they have no tires left and are running on bare wheel, this creates a spark and lights the cars on fire (Ryosuke explains the physics behind this in great detail). The both skid off the final turn and like a comet fly from the cliff into the abyss.

We see or hear no crash. Only Bunta remarking that it's likely the tofu will be charred.

Anyways Ryosuke and Bunta decide to race so that they can raise awareness for AIDS in memory of their lost ones (or so we think). They decide to race on FUJI super speedway because their awesome like that and figure it will raise the most for AIDS research.

Bunta wins easily. After the race Ryosuke approaches Bunta.

"Who are you again", says Ryosuke.
"I'm Bunta, Takumi's dad." Bunta says in response.
"Oh wow gee that's cool, funny how we never met"
"Yeah no shit" Bunta replies as he takes a puff from his cigarette (he eventually dies of lung cancer).

The race was widely covered by the press and they are able to raise enough money to cure AIDS.

The end! Don't you love happy endings?!

HAHAHAHA this is gold laugh.gif

And yeah, I REALLY wanted a rematch between them. I just rewatched Initial D again and right before Takumi joined Project D,

Keisuke was telling Takumi that they will race again and he would grind him into dust. Shigeno just forgot about that declaration of war rolleyes.gif

Posted by: xiao Oct 27 2016, 05:59 PM
QUOTE (eatsuki @ 47 minutes, 13 seconds ago)
Shigeno just forgot about that declaration of war rolleyes.gif

Shigeno turned into Papa Benz with all the money he made from Initial D. He'll be back once his harem of softball high school girls graduate ... or he'll just go nutz and go even deeper into perversion & write a manga about a middle-school go-kart league. It's gonna be called Bakuon!! InitiaL.Hamilton. user posted image beep-beep<!!

Posted by: GoodOldGunman Oct 28 2016, 05:27 AM
I think Takumi would win downhill. He already could keep a small lead on Keisuke's FD during Project D's practices. Uphill, it is a easy win for Keisuke unless Takumi adds a turbo on the GC8.

When did Keisuke lose against Takumi TWO times? As far as I can remember, he lost only once at Akina.

Posted by: eatsuki Oct 28 2016, 07:11 PM
QUOTE (xiao @ Yesterday, 5:59 PM)
Shigeno turned into Papa Benz with all the money he made from Initial D. He'll be back once his harem of softball high school girls graduate ... or he'll just go nutz and go even deeper into perversion & write a manga about a middle-school go-kart league. It's gonna be called Bakuon!! InitiaL.Hamilton. http://imgur.com/cDw3X1N.png beep-beep<!!

Yep, Papa Benz is a proper description.

Maybe Shigeno is missing something in his life. Doesn't he have some female fans to cheer him up and give him a renewed motivation to continue ( more like finish ) Initial D properly? laugh2.gif

Takumi vs Keisuke rematch would bring the series full circle

Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 28 2016, 07:32 PM
Can't believe I never posted in this thread, because that was one of my biggest complaints with how the series ended. There's no way Shigeno just forgot to do it, he must have either wanted to leave it an open question of who would win, or just was too lazy by the end of the series (or both).

Posted by: GoodOldGunman Oct 28 2016, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ 1 hour, 52 minutes ago)
Can't believe I never posted in this thread, because that was one of my biggest complaints with how the series ended. There's no way Shigeno just forgot to do it, he must have either wanted to leave it an open question of who would win, or just was too lazy by the end of the series (or both).

No he didn't forget it. He was just too lazy to write it.

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Posted by: xiao Oct 29 2016, 10:34 AM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ Yesterday, 9:32 PM)
Can't believe I never posted in this thread, because that was one of my biggest complaints with how the series ended. There's no way Shigeno just forgot to do it, he must have either wanted to leave it an open question of who would win, or just was too lazy by the end of the series (or both).

Goku = Takumi | Vegeta = Keisuke

...and we all know who won that battle...

Akira Toriyama rolling in all dat cash-money DBZ fangirls like me gave him & Funimation w00t2.gif $$$

Shigeno is one evil motherfscker ~ shifty2.gif

Posted by: eatsuki Oct 29 2016, 12:32 PM
QUOTE (GoodOldGunman @ Yesterday, 9:25 PM)
No he didn't forget it. He was just too lazy to write it.

http://h.mfcdn.net/store/manga/134/48-718....ressed/b009.jpg

Source: Mangafox

I can't see your image.

Agreed, I'm inclined to believe that it's laziness that prompted Shigeno to omit that rematch.

BUT, that opens the door for some new Initial D far in the future.

Like Xiao said, who knows, maybe in 10-15 years there will be a continuation of Initial D, like how Dragon Ball Super resurrected the franchise.

Even a 3rd stage style movie with 2 races, one being Takumi vs Keisuke. In 10 years the nostalgia factor might make this movie profitable

Posted by: GoodOldGunman Oct 30 2016, 08:29 AM
In that page Keisuke asks everyone if anyone's interested in seeing him and Takumi have a race, no one replies positively.

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Posted by: xiao Oct 30 2016, 01:50 PM
QUOTE (eatsuki @ Yesterday, 2:32 PM)
Like Xiao said, who knows, maybe in 10-15 years there will be a continuation of Initial D, like how Dragon Ball Super resurrected the franchise.

I said that...? w00t2.gif ~ I wouldn't read too much into xiao's posts eatsuki-senpai ~ half the time he can't tell a coherent English sentence from his butt man-boobies ~ laugh.gif fufufu! shifty2.gif

Yes Initial D will be resurected as a totally awesome Train Anime™ about Multiple Rail Slides and Puppet Conductors. awesome.gif ♫

~ Obama fo'shizzle! user posted image

Posted by: RickkyyP Nov 6 2016, 10:03 AM
It kind of annoyed me the way that in the end Shigeno just lost interest.

A bit like Hunter x Hunter, brilliant manga until the author decided to make 2 year hiatus's between every ten releases, it's been that long that I can't get into it any more, maybe because I'm older.

Things that bothered me:
- The ending, I guess he wanted to end the 86, but spinning to finish first. C'mon. And I get its supposed to be like he's racing himself a few years ago but considering how much he improved since then he should have won easily. especially since his 86 is far more tuned than the other.

- The Takumi - Kesiku rematch. IMO Takumi wins the downhill, uphill is kind of irrelevant while he drives the 86.

- Takumis dream. I remember him telling Natsuki that he wants to become a professional racing driver, when he talks with her by the lake. In the end Kesikue becomes a racing driver and he drives a lorry. I don't by that his unique style is only good for mountain passes. Speed is speed.

-A race in the Impreza (would have been cool.)

5th and Final stage were not really that good. The 4th was pretty good, but to me the first will always be king.

Posted by: Tessou Nov 6 2016, 01:36 PM
QUOTE (RickkyyP @ 3 hours, 32 minutes ago)
It kind of annoyed me the way that in the end Shigeno just lost interest.

Like almost every artist that's worked on one piece of art for over a decade? There's only so much you can do with essentially three characters in a narrow genre like racing. Go professional? Race Bunta? Yaoi? It all ends up being the same story with a slightly different ending and/or twist, every time. Maybe this guy will spin out and piss readers off with the soft ending. Maybe Takumi will sneeze and lose two meters of his lead.

It doesn't really matter. I said it a long time ago: Purple Shadow was the zenith. It was an eventuality that a racing manga would find a plateau and end up eventually going back downhill.

Posted by: xiao Nov 6 2016, 03:20 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 1 hour, 42 minutes ago)
Yaoi?

Purple Shadow

... w00t2.gif ~ I'd bet my golden candies that someone's already a doujin outta that one bruv~ laugh.gif

Posted by: GoodOldGunman Nov 7 2016, 10:11 PM
QUOTE (xiao @ Yesterday, 3:20 PM)
... w00t2.gif ~ I'd bet my golden candies that someone's already a doujin outta that one bruv~ laugh.gif

Keisuke X Ryosuke is already official IIRC.

Posted by: xiao Nov 8 2016, 10:28 PM
QUOTE (GoodOldGunman @ Yesterday, 12:11 AM)
Keisuke X Ryosuke is already official IIRC.

e'www gey incest... !! user posted image

I'd rather see Tak & Keisuke boink or Papa Benz & Natsukiz ~ than bro-on-bro action... yucky.gif

Only sis-on-bro incest is wincest! cool.gif ☆

Posted by: Meteor Nov 9 2016, 02:33 AM
Keisuke X Ryousuke is about as official as Takumi getting a Bugatti Veyron. The twitter for the Legend movies put up Valentines' Day art of those two being all sexy for the ladies, but that's as far as it got.

Posted by: RickkyyP Nov 21 2016, 07:38 AM
QUOTE (Tessou @ Nov 6 2016, 01:36 PM)
It doesn't really matter. I said it a long time ago: Purple Shadow was the zenith. It was an eventuality that a racing manga would find a plateau and end up eventually going back downhill.

Agree with you here.

Purple Shadow were also arguably the two opponents that they never actually beat.

Takumi won because God Hand threw up. Keisuke won because God Foot decided to give him a chance and make it a combined up and downhill.

I particularly liked the reasoning behind God Hands record line, a lot more plausible than Takumis teleportation device.

I remember when I first watched 4th stage many years ago that it felt a bit too much on the racing and not enough of the side characters, Iketani and Itsuki etc, in hindsight its the best stage barring 1.

Posted by: Taryn Jan 1 2017, 07:59 PM
QUOTE (RickkyyP @ Nov 21 2016, 07:38 AM)
Agree with you here.

Purple Shadow were also arguably the two opponents that they never actually beat.

Takumi won because God Hand threw up. Keisuke won because God Foot decided to give him a chance and make it a combined up and downhill.

I particularly liked the reasoning behind God Hands record line, a lot more plausible than Takumis teleportation device.

I remember when I first watched 4th stage many years ago that it felt a bit too much on the racing and not enough of the side characters, Iketani and Itsuki etc, in hindsight its the best stage barring 1.

Honestly this is why I loved the first stage. You got to see the side characters race and practice, Takumi wasn't completely serious all the time.

After that, when you get to fourth stage it becomes Dues Ex Takumi. He always wins because of something stupid the other guy did, and he doesn't seem to take what they do and improve himself like he did early on.

I find that Stage 4 might still have rewatch value, but aside from watching Stage 5 just to find out how the story ends I haven't rewatched it at all despite going back for more of the earlier stuff.

God, I don't know what it was about 1st Stage (other than the best character designs) that gets me so hyped but I always have to watch the whole season once I start. And now that I'm a mechanic by trade I always make my buddies watch it with me by bribing them with beer and pizza. I love the race between Takumi and Impact Blue in both the manga and the anime. But I can't think of any 5th stage races that really stick out for me.

Posted by: Tessou Jan 1 2017, 08:34 PM
QUOTE (Taryn @ 35 minutes, 18 seconds ago)
And now that I'm a mechanic by trade I always make my buddies watch it with me by bribing them with beer and pizza.

How do those two things correlate?

Posted by: GoodOldGunman Jan 2 2017, 04:29 AM
QUOTE (Taryn @ 8 hours, 30 minutes ago)
I can't think of any 5th stage races that really stick out for me.

Shinigami vs Ryosuke was the only race holding up to the standards set by the earlier stages imo.

Posted by: kyonpalm Jan 2 2017, 07:33 AM
QUOTE (GoodOldGunman @ 3 hours, 3 minutes ago)
Shinigami vs Ryosuke was the only race holding up to the standards set by the earlier stages imo.

Pretty much this. The only things Fifth Stage had going for it were the introduction of Mika / Project. D imposters, and Shinigami.

Posted by: BOZZ Jan 2 2017, 12:56 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ 5 hours, 23 minutes ago)
Pretty much this. The only things Fifth Stage had going for it were the introduction of Mika / Project. D imposters, and Shinigami.

What about the FD vs NSX race? I thought it was amongst one of the things Fifth Stage had going for it as well.

Posted by: Taryn Jan 2 2017, 01:29 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ Yesterday, 8:34 PM)
How do those two things correlate?

They probably don't, but I like having friends over.

QUOTE (GoodOldGunman)
Shinigami vs Ryosuke was the only race holding up to the standards set by the earlier stages imo.

Is that the one where his brakes go out and Ryosuke and another guy get in front of him to stop him from flying off a cliff?

Posted by: BOZZ Jan 2 2017, 02:27 PM
Yes, that would be the one with Ryosuke in his modified FC (with a new spoiler, hood, changed headlights) racing Shinigami in his GT-R R32 with Ikeda in his 350Z following them.

Posted by: Meteor Jan 3 2017, 02:14 AM
QUOTE
What about the FD vs NSX race? I thought it was amongst one of the things Fifth Stage had going for it as well.

Reduced to nothing the exact moment Keisuke began teleporting over and over.
And even without that, it wouldn't have been much more than two cars chasing each other until one of the supposedly super good drivers spins out (not just gets a little too sideways; full on spins out) by doing something a driver of that level would never do (try to go full blast through a turn after already messing up the entry to the point you literally can't). There was very little of the attention to detail that the better races in the series had - not in how the two racers drove or in what techniques, strategies and/or factors ultimately decided the end result.
And that's without getting into the mostly unexciting directing and the wildly inconsistent way the cars were animated. The music was the only thing it really had going for it.

I guess it was better than some of the other races in Fifth Stage, but I can't really see it as an actual high-point.

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