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> Plentymoon's 83 Rx7 Build
Plentymoon
  Posted: Feb 17 2015, 11:51 PM


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Since I have it up at RX7 Club I thought I would post it here as well I hope you guys enjoy it I'm not much of a through explaining kind of person so you will be lost in it.


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Ok well it looks luke the first really cold day took its toll on somethings and i now need to rebuild the motor. When i finally got my rex all thawed out and under some cover i fired her up and she lit up real nice idled really well.


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Turns out after i had fired up the engine and let it get to operating tempeture i noticed alot of blue smoke and steam coming from my oil spout i shut the car down and began looking at things pulled my dipstick out and my oil was a nice light mocha color (You know like you get when your at starbucks).

So it seems my plans for a turbo set up is held off till I rebuild and know its running right. The first cold day was -7 with 20mph wind chills and froze my system before i had prepped it for below freezing conditions. Im hoping the the keg is not cracked in anyway. Even when she was idling she ran nice and smooth no issues until normal running temps.


I will post oil picturs later on when i get off work. Boy will i be working alot more hours this winter.

Things on my List to do during the cold season.

1. Pull Motor and tear down for Rebuild.

2. Replace Brake Booster, Master, and Slave Cylinders

3. Adjust Clutch and Replace Clutch with a Fresh kit possibly Change Flywheel.

4. Paint car Flat Black Fix up the Engine bay and Get it looking Fresh.

5. Work tons of hours at work to fund this project and possibly add some more goodies later on (Play less Video games and don't eat out so much).

Since my old thread had a pictures of my car and some of the engine bay I will repost them here on this thread.

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I've only done a few Cosmetic Details on the outside like the Louvers being Repainted Flat black and Coated with Glossy Black that combo worked out pretty well. Painted my hood Flat black to get rid of the faded clear coat sanded down by hand and repainted with a rattle can fully dried turned out really great and nice and even. I plan on hand sanding the entire car myself and fixing the one dent in the rear driver side that has started to rust and was covered up by a weird dragon sticker some year ago before I owned it.

I did fix alot of the Interior lights and I even got the Ringers working for the door and when im low on coolant or oil. need to work on getting the dash light working I think it has burnt out lights but it might just be in need of some rework to get the speedometer working right again as well.

gonna try to fix the Seats myself (gotta put those Home Economics skills into practice haha). and try to Restore my dash it only has one crack in it and I think I can fix it it didn't start peeling off to the side or anything but it looks in nice enough shape I can probably patch it up and repaint to look original and not half ass worked in.

I really hope I can do this I won't give this car up like I did my first Mazda I have grown very attached to this first gen and its characteristics not that I didn't love my 2nd gen but at that time I didn't know enough and feared I would just break it so I sold it and waited far to long for another one this time I'am ready and I will take this on for a nice decent looking and awesome running car.
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So this is what my motor oil is lookin like right now makes me sad. Sitting in my shop with hopes for a good warm firing and that the problem would magicly go away by the Rotary Angels.

But dont worry if i work a good 144 hours in the next 2 weeks i can get the rebuild kit purchased and get the motor prepped for removal. I hope i can last that long for the next 12 days because thats gonna be the most hours ive worked in quite sometime.

Only thing i do not own is an engine stand yet and a buddy is gonna let me use his cherry picker for the motor.

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Just a couple of pictures I did remove all the hoses and vaccum lines sometime after the engine picture.

But that crack is from the water pump housing good thing I bought another one off of a parts car so I at least I know where one problem lies and that i can at least replace it sooner then later with a new water pump.

When I finish working off the Carb I will only be one step from taking the motor out and cleaning up the engine bay all nice and shiny.
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Alright everyone chime in on how good you think im doing?

Also do you see what I see on the first 2 pictures of that iron. xD

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Just picked up my new motor today it has 83k miles on it and was really do for a rebuild worse then mine ever was. I tore it all down in the first 3 hours of getting it home inspected irons and housings.

Front housing is garbage and will be used for porting practice. All the Irons were in almost perfect shape just from my understanding of inspecting things on thse motors.

So for now I leave you with the torn down pictures of my original motor and now one picture of thw new motor I picked up before I tore it down more pictures will follow of the newer motors parts and Im not gonna lie my original Rotors were twice as clean coming out then theses ones were.

Stay tuned folks.

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So tonight before I got on shift I took the carb apart to get it cleaned I brought it with me to work so I could some of the nice expensive stuff we have.

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Soaked them in a bucket full of solvent for 3 hours took'em to the tank wire brushed them down best I could rinsed off with more solvent and horse hair brush and came out almost perfect still some what dirty in some corners but good looking enough to sit pretty on a fresh rebuild without it being an eyesore.

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So got the engine to work with some help from a buddy. worked all night and got off my shift and cleaned my engine parts for 2 hours and here is what I got!

When my taxes are done I'm opening a credit card and buying the rebuild kit and start building my credit line from this car so I can keep my interests going one payment at a time.

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Not sure if you guys can see them clear enough from my potato camera phone but will my housings really be ok for running a rebuild this notches in the plating of the houses kinda freak me out when I look at them. The engine didn't have a problem before I ruined it so But I would like some reassuring.

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So a little up date taxes are done and on the way getting back a lot more then expected enough to rebuild and get a lot more things to spruce up and fix.

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A recommendation... rather than copying and pasting your build thread, you could simply link directly to each relevant post from rx7club then use this thread for any future updates. wink2.gif

In any event, good luck.
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thats lame though the only links I want to make people click on are pictures because who knows what your gonna see =w=

plus was planning on moving my thread here as well since I see my self using this forum often enough I have an Rx7 club app not like I have to worry about updating on the website.

only thing being copy and pasted after this will be pictures and not like how I already did lol and since I have a nicer shinier phone that takes less potato looking pictures you might not worry so far down the line <3

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Oh what kind of Ideas would that be? I hope I don't hear about swapping in some kind of V8 boinger engine cause that's a no go.

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QUOTE (Plentymoon @ Yesterday, 9:32 PM)
Oh what kind of Ideas would that be? I hope I don't hear about swapping in some kind of V8 boinger engine cause that's a no go.

Psst, Rudy. Read the whole post before replying next time.

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Psst, Nomake. i did. I just wanted to give thre ZFG FB3S a plug. tongue.gif

I am officially unplugging it for you. Well, as officially as I can without mod powers to abuse to remove your post without a trace, anyway.

EDIT: And this will probably fall on deaf ears but jesus christ people it's an SA22C. Call it an 'SA' if you want, but...jeez.

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QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 3 hours, 19 minutes ago)
I am officially unplugging it for you. Well, as officially as I can without mod powers to abuse to remove your post without a trace, anyway.

EDIT: And this will probably fall on deaf ears but jesus christ people it's an SA22C. Call it an 'SA' if you want, but...jeez.

Actually my friend my 83 would be an FB as designated on my cars ID numbers 75-80 were sa22c but 81-85 were FBs from what I have been told.

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I thought it depends on where you live, and that FB33 just outright replaces the SA22C in North America, because of the 17 number VIN.

As I remember:
SA22C in foreign markets: 78 - 85
SA22C in North America: 78 - 80
"FB33" in North America: 81-85
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QUOTE (Miura Seri @ 47 minutes, 28 seconds ago)
I thought it depends on where you live, and that FB33 just outright replaces the SA22C in North America, because of the 17 number VIN.

As I remember:
SA22C in foreign markets: 78 - 85
SA22C in North America: 78 - 80
"FB33" in North America: 81-85

That's how I remember being told it works for the ID numbers

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I'm pretty sure anyone who read that thread on 7club is going to be of the same opinion... Just saying.

Visually? Just look at the rear end. The FB's is facelifted (asslifted? lol).
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*imitating best redneck voice* Is that one of them there rotax engines?

Hurah, for more Rotards!
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Haha it's good to know there are others around my rebuild kit is on the way.

Plan on doing brake work before I drop the engine in

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Didn't the FB also get a less ugly front bumper since by 1980 the 5 mph bumper was amended to be a 2.5 mph bumper?

I think the ass just got a face lift but the front relatively stayed the same out of a lot of the build threads I have seen with the SA22C's the front looks about the same its just the ass that looks different
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Ordered a few things like a new Brake Booster, Drum brakes, radiator cap, temp sensor, New pulley drive setup, Gasket kit, energy suspension bushings for the whole car.

Still need New shocks, master and slave cylinder, and a New clutch,probably source a few more Nikki carbs to do some N\A tuning before I start working on my turbo build again.

Stay tuned my fellow scum bags my lazy ass will be driving the all new lolicongod mobile no pedo intended (¬_¬)"

Spaz I followed you on FB and you have a pretty nice evo man read through some older stuff you keep it pretty tidy without exaggerating it's looks kinda jelly.

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QUOTE (Plentymoon @ Mar 15 2015, 05:02 AM)
Ordered a few things like a new Brake Booster, Drum brakes, radiator cap, temp sensor, New pulley drive setup, Gasket kit, energy suspension bushings for the whole car.

Still need New shocks, master and slave cylinder, and a New clutch,probably source a few more Nikki carbs to do some N\A tuning before I start working on my turbo build again.

Stay tuned my fellow scum bags my lazy ass will be driving the all new lolicongod mobile no pedo intended (¬_¬)"

Spaz I followed you on FB and you have a pretty nice evo man read through some older stuff you keep it pretty tidy without exaggerating it's looks kinda jelly.

Dual-belt or gilmer belt setup? Curious because duals will still snap and gilmers make all the right noises.

And thanks! I do what I can with what I've got. I've always subscribed to doing more with less and it's easy to see that when you pick apart my cars. Just makes sense to get the absolute most I can out of something before replacing or upgrading it, you know?
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I've run duel belts for a long time and have never had them snap. The main advantage isn't really a snapping issue, but rather, it is actually damn near impossible to find two belts EXACTLY the same size to make it "correct" One is always slightly looser than the other.

The gilmer belts do sound nice though.
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I can think of 3 guys locally, Grappler included, who've snapped belts on duals on relatively stock kegs. I can't speak from personal experience yet for obvious reasons, but I know the route I'm going, without question, when I do finally pick up an FB.
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strange - I have snapped single ones, to which I afterwards switched to duals - and never had a problem since.
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From what I know Both are good depending on how you tension from your alternator really.

But from what I have heard Since I bought,the Gilmer set up is that it will withstand quite the power and makes sexy noises but also just swapping to a dual belt system is plenty efficient but if you tension it to much at the alternator you can slip and snap your belts easy or just wear down your alt bearings but that could still happen on pretty much stock But that's scary just thinking about it.

Check out my build thread posted in my siggy space for pictures,of it.

Only need apex seals the the engine will be ready to go back together but I messed up on my carb rebuild missing a really,tiny bearing for fuel leveling portion so I have to find another one and swap all my rebuilt stuff to it before this car will run smooth.


But I was informed by one of the guys Who has been helpings with,most of,my build on the,forums Jeff20B lel love that we have the same name that I would have a lot of noise and attention from this pulley setup (lookin forward to it).

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Sunday me and my buddies are getting together and putting the Rex up on stands and redoing all the suspension and brakes on it gonna take lots of pictures for sure will be nice to see how all the old blown shit looks replaced with the new shit.

probably do the brake booster and see if I can get it to build pressure with the old master slave before I replace paint my new water pump so it doesn't get all dirty looking from an oil spill later on after the engine is put in.

Replace Tranny fluid and Differential fluid since i'm sure non of them have been changed in 34 years I have no old receipts to prove they have so gonna just do it.

I look forward to taking lots of pictures and having a good time getting this car safe before the engine gets dropped back in it.

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