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> The NEW Focus RS, Is it 2016 yet?
Spaz
  Posted: Feb 3 2015, 09:10 AM


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http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/futur...ming-to-the-us/

300+hp, a full set of torque vectoring diffs, and great looks? Sign me up. I'm seriously excited for this car.
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Posted: Feb 3 2015, 09:43 AM


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>everything you need to know
>no price tag

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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If it's going to be competitive, look for pricing to compete with the incoming Honda Civic Type R and Golf R. Though it's Ford, so it'll probably be on the cheaper side of things.
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The front looks super-ultra-mega aggresive! These looks definitely don't appeal to me though.
But 300bhp + tv differentials in a small and compact car like this is still extremely appealing.
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That face looks awful. Count me out.
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That bumper be like

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Apparently, and this is third hand info, dealers were told book pricing of $27k for base and $35k for premium. Obviously there would be mark-ups on top, but even as a rough estimate, those are some tempting prices.
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hmmm hope it's more reliable than the Focus ST.
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QUOTE (Spaz @ 51 minutes, 35 seconds ago)
Apparently, and this is third hand info, dealers were told book pricing of $27k for base and $35k for premium. Obviously there would be mark-ups on top, but even as a rough estimate, those are some tempting prices.

Seems awfully high for a hot hatch, though. I haven't been looking at the new car market for a while, so if that's the current norm feel free to call me a big silly goose.

For 27k I could get one heck of a nice last model year car.
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A Golf R/STi killer. cool.gif Certainly welcome to another AWD rallybred car with the Evo line coming to an end.
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Well, it was a Europe thing, I think.
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Yep, all of which were front-wheel drive. The Mk 2 still being my favorite.
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  Posted: Feb 4 2015, 09:29 AM


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The past two generations of Focus have had an RS model, and as stated, both were FWD. I initially typed FTW there... Which is also the case.

Both Subaru and VW should be sweating right now.

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Some more good tidbits.

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Just when I thought most new cars (within reasonable financial reach) were bland and boring, I came across the RS... in the comments section of some random Jalopnik article advertised on Yahoo. Still an estimated price point higher than I'd be comfortable spending, but it's reasonable imo and I might go for it once my warranty expires.

I'm genuinely excited to see if it lives up to my expectations. I really enjoyed driving the '13 Fiesta Titanium, so I imagine the Focus RS to be an entirely different beast for the better.
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Yeah, I'm well aware of NJ's high insurance rates. It was one of the reasons why I turned down a WRX when I was looking for a new daily. Going from a Civic to an Accord saved me quite a bit on that front.

This is all just talk. In reality, I'm currently saving up for a down payment on a house: wouldn't have purchased the Accord if my Civic didn't die on me. After I get a place for myself, I'm doubtful I'd be able to afford anything. sad.gif
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QUOTE (Rudy @ Yesterday, 10:21 AM)
SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE HERE, make sure you call your insurance BEFORE signing any documents.

Your rates could double, triple or even quadruple. Part of the reason I'm up shit creek financially is because of that $10,000 personal loan I took out just to pay for insurance.

While this is true, the drawback is that if it's a new car, the rates may not exist yet since the car would be brand new, so the carrier may just manually set the rates based on what they know about the car. So even if that number ends up being something you'd be okay with, once they rate the car within the next few months, it could completely change. Also speaking from experience, but on the quoting side.
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That really sucks.

NJ was ranked the ninth highest average car insurance rate last year. Comparing NJ's average rates to surrounding states:

http://www.insure.com/car-insurance/car-insurance-rates.html

DE: Ranked 17. 17% lower.
MD: Ranked 11. 5% lower.
NY: Ranked 42. 39% lower.
PA: Ranked 25. 25% lower.

Cars.com estimated the national average insurance cost for:

2014 Ford Focus: $1118
2014 Ford Focus ST: $1205
2014 Honda Accord: $1615
2014 Honda Civic: $1375
2014 Subaru Impreza: $1157
2014 Subaru WRX: $1502

The national average, according to Insure.com, is $1503 in 2014. NJ carries about a 27% premium over the national average. So, assuming you were a 40-year-old male driver living in NJ with no history and the insurance cost of a 2016 Ford Focus RS followed that of a Subaru WRX, you can expect to be paying about $1903/year in insurance. Adjusting for Cars.com's national average ($1231), we're looking at $2324.

Looking at CarsDirect.com:

http://www.carsdirect.com/car-insurance/th...ce-rates-by-age

The average insurance rate for 25-29 year-olds with Esurance is $2400/year. For 40-49 year-olds, it's $2164. So, we can expect that insurance will cost at least 11% more for those around my age.

That said, my insurance costs are estimated to be around $2579/year for the 2016 Ford Focus RS based on Insure.com numbers. In reality, I fully expect it to be closer to $3000/year.

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Just talk. Nothing more. smile.gif

I anticipate the cost to insure the RS to be around the cost to insure a WRX.

I don't see myself owning one in the near future. As much as I like the idea of having a new car, I hate the idea of high insurance rates, depreciation, scratches and dents, dirt, etc., stuff that I don't care as much about when I get a used car.
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