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A sand trap + air wall is a hell of a lot softer than anything you're going to hit on the streets.

Uhu...

Then why the hell do riders still wear helmets when they ride on the streets if they believed that stuffs like helmet would not be able to protect them in the event of a street accident??

The truth is, it does offer protection even from the type of dangers the streets offer.
I've been through street accidents before.

Are you saying that safety gears does not and cannot protect people from street crashes???

Tremendous impact in a head injury would be anything higher than 10 mph impact speed?

I don't see anything wrong with what Twizted has posted. Gear first, bike second.

@Alex : Hmmm, something to consider, thanks for the insight.

Tremendous impact to me sounds like a 60+ mph crash into something almost stationary.

Yes helmets are safe, as is all the safety equipment, but there is a reason most bikers are labeled as "organ donors" in the hospitals.

And that's your argument against wearing safety equipment?

If it's not, what is it?

Well that is why I said earlier that you'd have to buy DOT and SNELL certified gears.

Before a safety gear, such as the helmet for example, goes to the consumer end, it is put to test (rigorous road and street crash testing that is).
And if it passed, it gets the DOT and/or SNELL certificate.

So in buying, if you see the DOT and/or SNELL logo on it, it means that particular gear has passed crash tests for the streets.

Go get your DOT or SNELL helmet, slam your head into a wall at 100mph, and tell me how it works out for ya.

Are you saying that since it is a given you will have to slam your head into a wall at 100mph as soon as you get a bike, one shouldn't bother to buy a helmet?

Because that what it sounds like...

Not at all. I'm just saying that he's making it sound like if you wear all the safety gear, you'll be immortal, when that's not the case at all.

I don't think he said that.

I don't think he meant you can head on a wall at triple digits and live...

It DOES make a big difference though. Back when I raced there were a couple horrible crashes, a particular one with the rider airborn at triple digits into a chain link fence who lost limbs, but still lived. About the same time in one of the forums a guys friend died on his R1 at about 20 mph hitting a tree branch (no helmet) and went head first into the ground. In my hometown somebody actually checked out while not even in motion, just fell over (no helmet) and hit the curb.

Your body can take a rather awful pummeling and still function, your brain on the other hand...

heres my bike

Thank god you bought a Kawasaki that wasn't Kawa green. My dad's Ninja is red too, but about 10 years older.
I'm assuming it's a 600?

This post has been edited by Alex on Jun 6 2010, 08:58 PM

I don't know man, if I would get a Kawi, it could only be 2 colours, black or Kawi green.

actually no its not a 600 its a 250. I actually was parked next to a ren ninja zx14 today it was a suprise to see another red bike let alone a kawi around here (fayetteville)

That's the newest model 250, isn't it?

yea 2010 model when i sell this im prolly gonna get a 600cc bike

The good thing about the Kawi 250's is that you can sell them for close to what you got them for.

Good idea starting with a 250, instead of a 600, too.

The current 250s sure look a lot fuller. I'm in the hunt for a 500. It's still perfectly suitable for a first bike with room to grow in to. A lot of people outgrow the 250 pretty quickly. How long have you been riding, t-k?

I used to ride dirtbikes, did that for about 3 years. Then didn't ride anything for 2 years. I've had this bike for about a month. Its a great beginner bike if you have no riding experience but if you have experience I recommend getting a biggerr bike but not like a 1300cc cuz you'll prolly die.

I see people all the time with 600's who have no clue... Except to go fast in a straight line.

I know exactly what you are saying Apex

I've toyed around with the idea of buying a bike since it's not hard to find good deals... though I'm not particularly thrilled with the insurance rates hahaha

They're pretty cheap if you tack onto an existing car insurance and are 25+. Might get away with sub-100 a month.

Well, there are a lot of other variables... but if you get a sport bike, the insurance is going to suck unless you're getting liability coverage only. I insured a kid who had a DUI but was going liability only for $750 per year.