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> Drift a FR, Heel & Toe ---- HOW???
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  Posted: Dec 15 2002, 05:18 AM


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Hi,

I am new to this Board, and sorry for my english, but I am from Germany.
Ok, now to my particular problem. I am only 17, and I'm not allowed to even drive in Germany, driving age here is 18. But my Dad lives in NY, and i visited him sometimes, and i made my license there. so now I' drinving sometimes on parkinglots. My stepdad here in Germany owns a FR car, but everytime i try to do that HEEL & TOE thing, i do something wrong, because I shut the car off, just like in Initial D when itsuki tries to do that.
Can someone explain the technique to me???

Thx

Snoxxy
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Posted: Dec 15 2002, 07:42 PM


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here we go again ...

ok first you need to know this a heavy racing technique, the first thing you learn in racing school, the technique is basicaly used to downshift whitout making your car lose too much speed, you have, whit your left foot to press the clutch pedal than whit the top (toe) of your right foot press the brake pedal, and keep the bottom (heel) of that same right foot on the gas pedal (DO NOT PRESS IT IMMEDIATLY) now that you have your feet positioned you have to downshift, and AFTER THIS, give little hits on the gas pedal to make your revs go up ....

note 1 : this must be fast and precise

note 2 : PIN THIS !

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Posted: Dec 15 2002, 08:24 PM


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QUOTE
note 2 : PIN THIS !


I am not familiar with this technique, mind elaborating a bit?
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Posted: Dec 15 2002, 09:15 PM


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wat he meant was to use a Staple to Pin break and oil pedal together, good idea for a beginner to try Heel&Toe
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I pressumed that u r drifting with benz or BMW rite?

I dun usually use Heel&Toe... anyway..

The main purpose to use Heel&Toe is to keep the cornering being precised and maintain the rev...

am I right?

actually we dun need heel&toe most of the time...

1. Press Brake Pedal
2. A Damn Fast Gear Down Shifting. (practice please, my rivals always loose because of this step)
3. Steering Wheel Maneuver
4. Oil Pedal to control ur speed as well as direction

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Posted: Dec 15 2002, 10:03 PM


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Heel and toe is used to match the revs for when you downshift. But with synchro's in place, now a days you don't need to heel and toe.
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Posted: Dec 16 2002, 07:00 AM


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If you're downshifting aggressively to make use of the engine braking, blipping the gas stops the rear wheels locking. This is also handy for hard tuned engines with high compression ratios. Unless you are pushing it, you shouldnt need to worry about it.

You can also shift cars without using the clutch by matching revs with a blip, which looks cool, and may be slightly faster...just don't go ruining nice gearboxes learning smile.gif
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Posted: Dec 16 2002, 08:48 AM


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QUOTE (Jayson @ Dec 15 2002, 08:24 PM)
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note 2 : PIN THIS !


I am not familiar with this technique, mind elaborating a bit?

lols


he was talkign to a mod, mega mod or admin, asking to make this a pinned thread hehe

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I tried heel and toe wif my dad's E30....I got as far as brake and rev b4 everythign fell apart ahahah.


syncros make things too easy....and power steering too....damn you people with all your luxuries

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Posted: Dec 16 2002, 09:32 AM


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Posted: Dec 16 2002, 05:32 PM


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Posted: Dec 16 2002, 06:56 PM


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One question... When you're doing heel & toe or any other technique.. how hard do you press the brake and when do you release it? I understand that you clutch in first then brake then down shift. But how hard should I press on the brake and how long to i brake before i can release it? Thanks.
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Posted: Dec 16 2002, 07:29 PM


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depends on : the speed your going, the type of curve you have ahead, the quality of your brakes...etc ...there isnt a precise way to apply the brakes ...
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Posted: Dec 16 2002, 08:23 PM


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maya is right.. basically it's base on feeling too...
but dun put urself at risk... drifting is cool.. but nowadays i use grip driving style most of the time..

when i 1st "discover" drifting.. it was in a sandy area.. hope u enjoy urs.. HV FUN!
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Posted: Dec 16 2002, 08:59 PM


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QUOTE (cheevoon @ Dec 16 2002, 08:23 PM)
maya is right.. basically it's base on feeling too...
but dun put urself at risk... drifting is cool.. but nowadays i use grip driving style most of the time..

when i 1st "discover" drifting.. it was in a sandy area.. hope u enjoy urs.. HV FUN!

it's Kaya ! maya is a woman's name !!!!!!
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Posted: Dec 16 2002, 10:17 PM


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hehe, he called you a woman. laugh.gif
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Posted: Dec 16 2002, 11:26 PM


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lol I was like "I dind't know she was a chick haha."

and BoA is hot..didn't we already have this conversation??
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Posted: Dec 17 2002, 01:23 PM


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yeah, in the Initial D live action movie thread. they were talking about Boa playing Mogi Natsuki. And yeah she is quite a looker. On the back of my sisters Boa: Twilight cd case, there is Boa on the back and this Boa looks nothing like yours...
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Posted: Dec 17 2002, 04:24 PM


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then that must meen there are TWO BOA'S! happy.gif Oh Joy
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Posted: Dec 17 2002, 09:50 PM


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ahha she changed a LOT since she came out like wut..3 years ago?

she's dyed her hair so many times I swear she gonna be bald by the time she's 20..lols.


neways.....back to initial D...haha
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nothing wrong with dying your hair....... unsure.gif
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Posted: Dec 17 2002, 10:04 PM


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dying hair is kool...but it's hella bad fo your hair.
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Posted: Dec 17 2002, 10:20 PM


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ohhhh, how sad.

*trys to un-dye hair*

It's not coming out!
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Posted: Dec 17 2002, 10:47 PM


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hurry up..BLEACH IT!!! I heard that bleaching your hair is GOOD lol j/k(seriously dont' do this hehe)
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*runs to grab bleach*
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Posted: Dec 18 2002, 05:28 PM


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unsure.gif huh ...ok ...well *watches jayson running for bleach !*
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Posted: Dec 18 2002, 08:14 PM


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