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> best reason to not remove air condition?
redgreen
  Posted: Nov 6 2008, 03:02 PM


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so you dont mind driving in the heat for sacrifice. you want weight loss.

the main problem imo seems to be the lack of ability to fix your windows when they fog up during certain whether conditions. the air condition can be used as a humidifier to clear the windshild. saving 10-20kg for fogging up windows seem to be the best reason to keep the air condition.
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Posted: Nov 6 2008, 03:15 PM


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you could allways rig an electric de-fog system which charges the glass. grin2.gif
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Posted: Nov 6 2008, 03:16 PM


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Or you could be old school and carry a flannel rag on you and wipe it yourself (:
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Posted: Nov 6 2008, 05:20 PM


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Let's see, 90lbs from the front of my car to fight the understeer... or keep it to do something my epically powerful heater can do at the cost of a little comfort.

Oh, wait, that's right, my AC didn't work when I bought the car, the belt was off, the belt tensioner had broken off the block, and it needed a recharge.

I've driven in some pretty bad rainstorms, and not had any problems to speak of. It's a non-issue, take it out. The delete helps more than it hurts.
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Posted: Nov 6 2008, 09:12 PM


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isnt it obvious? well its obvious here in socal

you wouldn't want to remove a/c since well, its too freaking hot xD
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Posted: Nov 7 2008, 01:44 AM


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If sacrificing comfort for just that additional bit of performance is needed, then you got the wrong car in the first place lol =P

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Posted: Nov 7 2008, 09:37 AM


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QUOTE (DreadAngel @ Today at 3:44 AM)
If sacrificing comfort for just that additional bit of performance is needed, then you got the wrong car in the first place lol =P

Haha, true. Though when AC is pretty much the only comfort amenity the car came with, it's not really that bad.

You say additional bit, though... Have you ever felt the difference in handling from dropping weight from the front ? It's crazy noticeable.

My car was 59/41 weight distribution when I picked it up, with an AC delete and the upcoming battery relocation, it should be somewhere around 57/43 street configured. X configured, it'll still be 59/41, but that's because I gut the rear end. Helps it get loose. apxrock.gif
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Posted: Nov 10 2008, 02:34 PM


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Interesting... I NEVER use my AC or Heater. So as long as I leave in the heater, I still have defrost?

I'd definitely like to get rid of my cruise control, on my car it's on the bottom of the steering wheel shaft so I can't have the steering wheel down as far as I'd like otherwise it'd hit my leg.
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Posted: Nov 10 2008, 02:55 PM


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Yeah, don't take out your heater, it has so many uses.

Cruise control delete can be done, too. I use mine occasionally, so it stays.
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Posted: Nov 16 2008, 11:53 AM


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QUOTE (ToyotaFan84 @ Nov 10 2008, 05:34 PM)
Interesting... I NEVER use my AC or Heater. So as long as I leave in the heater, I still have defrost?

I'd definitely like to get rid of my cruise control, on my car it's on the bottom of the steering wheel shaft so I can't have the steering wheel down as far as I'd like otherwise it'd hit my leg.

The A/C is turned on when you want defrost to dry out the air. You'll still be sending air up there with the heater, it'll just be more moist air causing the windshield to fog up most likely.
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Posted: Nov 16 2008, 02:50 PM


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QUOTE (DreadAngel @ Nov 7 2008, 04:44 AM)
If sacrificing comfort for just that additional bit of performance is needed, then you got the wrong car in the first place lol =P

You're not sacrificing a damn thing. ROLL DOWN YOUR F**KING WINDOWS. Problem solved! wink2.gif
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QUOTE (Tessō @ Today at 2:50 PM)
You're not sacrificing a damn thing. ROLL DOWN YOUR F**KING WINDOWS. Problem solved! wink2.gif

Screw that.

I hate not having AC in the GTR. I didn't have AC in the FC either.

My Miata had AC, and i laughed at all the jokers who did not have AC.

I want my AC back, and windows don't cut it in hot ass so cal weather.

I hate walking out of my car with sweat on the back of my shirts. So guys, keep your AC. If you can't go faster with your AC, something else is wrong.

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I still have my AC in the car, and I don't plan on removing it. It's just out of refrigerant and I don't have the correct hose attachment to fit the car for a DIY recharge. tongue.gif
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Posted: Nov 16 2008, 08:42 PM


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I don't have AC purely because of the reverse manifold routing for my intercooler i'm doing. So far, I only have gripes with not having A/C when I had to drive to Palmdale during summer.
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Posted: Dec 17 2008, 07:41 AM


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QUOTE (redgreen @ Nov 6 2008, 03:02 PM)
so you dont mind driving in the heat for sacrifice.  you want weight loss.

the main problem imo seems to be the lack of ability to fix your windows when they fog up during certain whether conditions.  the air condition can be used as a humidifier to clear the windshild.  saving 10-20kg for fogging up windows seem to be the best reason to keep the air condition.

Has nothing to do with AC. AC consists of your condenser (not too heavy), receiver drier (very light) and your compressor (very heavy). Your blower can defog your windows just fine.

I did a write up on AC removal a while back. I'm too lazy to search so it's up to you.

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Posted: Dec 17 2008, 02:32 PM


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My Impreza has had an empty unit since I bought it. NZ is humid...in winter the cold fogs your sh!t up. In summer, the heat fogs your sh!t up.

Heater does the job in winter...let the car idle a bit to get the water up to temp, and voila.

In summer, once you've finished running through the rain to get in, your soggy self makes everything cloud up. So wind the windows down and enjoy some summer air! Provided it's not raining ><;;

You can survive without the AC should you decide to or be forced into doing so.

Still, after three years, I STILL want to get regassed...just...can't be arsed tongue.gif
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The worst is when it's raining and humid. That air is sickening.
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Posted: Dec 21 2008, 04:28 AM


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well i live in Australia so getting rid of the A/C is a no no!

& what if you happen to have a hot date one summer day?
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Posted: Dec 21 2008, 09:51 AM


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QUOTE (SuperMazdaKart @ Today at 6:28 AM)
what if you happen to have a hot date one summer day?

You explain to her that you race your car and that removing the A/C makes it handle better.

If she can't except that as a reasonable explanation, she's not worth your time.
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Posted: Dec 22 2008, 12:39 AM


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^truly someone who thinks cars>girls haha but no ac in socal.. = big nono windows don't do anything when hot air blows even when your rolling down a freeway.. or socal has way too much traffic so it won't help
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QUOTE (Gabzor @ Today at 2:39 AM)
^truly someone who thinks cars>girls haha

That's not entirely correct.

I have an interest in girls who can accept the fact that my car is a serious hobby, and is okay with two things:

1) Sacrificing comfort for speed in my car, and being willing to go places in it, as opposed to arguing that her car has A/C so we should take it instead.

2) Can deal with me spending more time in the garage than with her on the weekends, should the need arise.

If they can't accept those two things, it won't work, period.
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Posted: Dec 22 2008, 01:54 PM


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Before anyone says such a girl doesn't exist...

1) The AC in both my cars is fried

2) I never use it anyway, since it makes the car go slooooooow

3) Cars get more attention than boys on my driveway tongue.gif

We're rare, but we exist. To the point that guys are like 'Damnit, spend some time with me!' while we're busy cleaning the dashboard or changing the oil XD

Another point about AC: Changing from hot to cold, to hot to cold all day every day during the summer is a prime way of making yourself sick. Your body can't keep up with the changes (as we weren't designed originally for air conditioning...this is why we sweat!), and becomes vulnerable to colds and flu. This isn't to say you WILL get sick (especially if your immune system is like mine... BORG NANOPROBES!) but the chances of you coughing and sneezing through your summer are higher.

(There, we have another reason to remove it XD)

If you're a big car buff and you score a hot summer date...she ought to be the kind that says 'It's freaking hot in here...find some mountains and DRIVE FASTER!' biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (Shale @ Today at 1:54 PM)
Before anyone says such a girl doesn't exist...

1) The AC in both my cars is fried

2) I never use it anyway, since it makes the car go slooooooow

3) Cars get more attention than boys on my driveway tongue.gif

We're rare, but we exist. To the point that guys are like 'Damnit, spend some time with me!' while we're busy cleaning the dashboard or changing the oil XD

Another point about AC: Changing from hot to cold, to hot to cold all day every day during the summer is a prime way of making yourself sick. Your body can't keep up with the changes (as we weren't designed originally for air conditioning...this is why we sweat!), and becomes vulnerable to colds and flu. This isn't to say you WILL get sick (especially if your immune system is like mine... BORG NANOPROBES!) but the chances of you coughing and sneezing through your summer are higher.

(There, we have another reason to remove it XD)

If you're a big car buff and you score a hot summer date...she ought to be the kind that says 'It's freaking hot in here...find some mountains and DRIVE FASTER!' biggrin.gif

heh rare catch eh? cool.gif
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QUOTE (Shale @ Today at 1:54 PM)
If you're a big car buff and you score a hot summer date...she ought to be the kind that says 'It's freaking hot in here...find some mountains and DRIVE FASTER!' biggrin.gif

such a girl doesn't exist..
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QUOTE (Sensation! @ Today at 8:55 PM)
such a girl doesn't exist..

Prove it.
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