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Posted by: BOZZ Jan 12 2017, 08:28 PM
So Nintendo has announced a release date and price for their new console, the Nintendo Switch, which I think will be an awesome device when it releases on March 3rd. It was just announced in the last 20 minutes at a press event in Tokyo which is being livestreamed online as we speak.

I am pretty excited about it, both a home and mobile console all in one. I haven't been excited for a brand new Nintendo console in a long time.

It's being priced at $299.99 in the U.S., and it'll be $399.99 in Canada sad.gif.

So far some of the stuff they've so far with the new controls and games is pretty cool. I think the Switch will probably outsell the Wii and has a good shot of unseating the PS1 (which sold only about a million more than the Wii) and PS2.

What do you guys think of it?

Launch Day

1-2-Switch
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Skylanders Imaginators
Just Dance 2017

Launch Window

Has Been Heroes (March 2017)
I am Setsuna (March 2017)
Sonic Mania (Spring 2017)
Lego City Undercover (Spring 2017)
Arms (spring 2017)
Super Bomberman R (March 2017)
Snipperclips: Cut it Out, Together! (March 2017)
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (April 28, 2017)
Splatoon 2 (Summer 2017)
NBA 2K18 (September 2017)
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Fall 2017)
Super Mario Odyssey (Holiday 2017)

Posted by: Tessou Jan 12 2017, 09:04 PM
What launch titles have been announced?

Posted by: GoodOldGunman Jan 12 2017, 09:09 PM
The console sales will depend upon third party support, an area where Nintendo is severely lacking.

Just wait an year or two, they will put out an emulator for this. The same happened with Wii U.

Posted by: BOZZ Jan 12 2017, 09:10 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 6 minutes, 6 seconds ago)
What launch titles have been announced?

As far as I know it's only 2 games: the new Zelda game (which looks pretty great, might be the first Zelda game I'll ever play) and this neat casual game called 1, 2 Switch.

Posted by: Seri Jan 12 2017, 09:42 PM
Well, Disgaea 5 is on it.

http://store.nisamerica.com/disgaea-5-complete-limited-edition-nintendo-switch?utm_source=NISA+Online+Store+Customers&utm_campaign=3cddbfb08e-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_01_12&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3e308e5c3f-3cddbfb08e-151996577

Posted by: Shirogane Jan 12 2017, 10:53 PM
Skyrim's also announced (saw it coming but it's a nice surprise nonetheless,) Fire Emblem Warriors (huh?!), Shin Megami Tensei, Bomberman (?) and a few others in the last replies.

Posted by: Tessou Jan 13 2017, 01:43 AM
I'm impressed. Will buy this.

Posted by: Shirogane Jan 13 2017, 08:29 AM
I'm already heading down to Gamestop just to have my preorder done. derp.gif

Posted by: Seri Jan 13 2017, 09:36 AM
I'm heading down after work myself.

Posted by: BOZZ Jan 13 2017, 09:47 AM
It's limited, but Nintendo is going to be bringing around 6 major North American cities (New York City, Toronto, Washington D.C., Chicago, San Francisco and L.A.) in the next few weeks, starting with New York City this Sunday. Any of you guys planning on checking it out if it's near you?

Posted by: Tessou Jan 13 2017, 10:03 AM
Closest to me is Chicago. I'd be more willing to firebomb that city before I set foot anywhere near it. tongue.gif

Posted by: BOZZ Jan 13 2017, 10:36 AM
I'm contemplating going, but it's on a weekend, and it will probably be packed, heck there is a warning on the post on Nintendo's site not to come before 7 AM lol....

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Jan 13 2017, 11:18 AM
I'm not a huge Zelda fan, so I probably won't get one right away, but the new game does look good. Never played MK8, so I might cave in and get one April or early summer. Or maybe wait till holiday for the inevitable Mario Odyssey holiday bundle.

Kinda hoping they announce SSB4 Deluxe and Pokken 2. That'll give me an excuse to trade in my Wii U since those are the only two games I own for it lol

Posted by: BOZZ Jan 13 2017, 11:27 AM
So it looks like there are more than just 2 games coming out at launch (see first post).

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Jan 13 2017, 01:08 PM
They should consider bundling 1,2 Switch with the console. It looks interesting, but I can't see that game flying off the shelves. It's like Wii Sports, that game sold well because it was bundled with the Wii.

Posted by: Tessou Jan 13 2017, 01:43 PM
If they'd explain how the game works in better detail, I'd be more interested in it. "You play by looking at your opponent instead of the screen" needs more explanation before I think of handing money over.

Posted by: THE_HONDA_CG2 Jan 13 2017, 07:22 PM
I heard a rumor that Monster Hunter is slated to release on the Switch too. I'm only getting a console if MH is going to be on the system since that is practically the only game I play now. laugh.gif

Just kidding. I'm totally picking this up. That trailer for Zelda gave me the chills while I was watching it.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3876794/nintendo-switch-rumors-monster-hunter-shovel-knight-and-other-launch-titles-leaked/ for the MH title on Switch rumor

Posted by: Nerubian Jan 14 2017, 07:07 AM
I wonder if there will be a special Zelda edition of the console.

I guess I should've get my Wii U one year earlier. I only played over 400 hours on it and now there're coming out many cool new games on the Switch I want to play, too.

Posted by: BOZZ Jan 14 2017, 09:02 AM
QUOTE (Nerubian @ 1 hour, 54 minutes ago)
I wonder if there will be a special Zelda edition of the console.

I guess I should've get my Wii U one year earlier. I only played over 400 hours on it and now there're coming out many cool new games on the Switch I want to play, too.

As far as I know they only have a special edition of the actual game coming out, which oddly enough is coming out on the Wii U on the same day as well.

Posted by: Nerubian Jan 14 2017, 09:15 AM
QUOTE (BOZZ @ 13 minutes, 29 seconds ago)
As far as I know they only have a special edition of the actual game coming out, which oddly enough is coming out on the Wii U on the same day as well.

It's coming out for Wii U too because it was initially an exclusive game for it, I believe. It's a similar situation as Twilight Princess, which should be a Gamecube-only game at first.

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 6 2017, 03:43 PM
So did anyone here on IDW end up getting a Switch?

Posted by: RalliKai Mar 6 2017, 04:54 PM
QUOTE (BOZZ @ 1 hour, 10 minutes ago)
So did anyone here on IDW end up getting a Switch?

I'm certainly intrigued by the Switch but given that I picked up a PS4 6 months ago and now collecting the parts for my new desktop, it's going to be alittle while before I pick one up.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Mar 7 2017, 05:41 PM
Holding off on a Switch for now. Not interested in any of the games out for it at the moment. Zelda isn't a system seller for me(Never understood the hype for that series). Plus I've been hearing too many weird problems and inconveniences about the system.

Posted by: Shirogane Mar 8 2017, 11:52 AM
QUOTE (BOZZ @ Mar 6 2017, 04:43 PM)
So did anyone here on IDW end up getting a Switch?

Yo. Just picked my console up at 12 AM sharp.

So far, I've yet to run into the little problems that I've seen on blurbs.

Posted by: Tessou Mar 9 2017, 09:11 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ Mar 7 2017, 09:41 PM)
Zelda isn't a system seller for me(Never understood the hype for that series).

Breath of the Wild is a complete reinvention of Zelda games, though. You should check out some streams (read: Vinesauce).

I'm not buying it until they fix the physical issues with the console. The dock does not protect the screen during docking/undocking. The joycon clips are impossible to remove if accidentally (easily) put on the wrong side. Left joycon tends to desync for no reason. Also, a lack of a definitive library is keeping me away from it. The virtual console is not on Switch. So far the only Switch title I want is Breath of the Wild, and there is nothing they've announced that I'm interested in.

I'll be getting a Wii U this weekend and enjoying Breath of the Wild in slightly lower resolution, with the bonus of having a vast library and the virtual console.

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 9 2017, 10:22 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 1 hour, 10 minutes ago)
Breath of the Wild is a complete reinvention of Zelda games, though. You should check out some streams (read: Vinesauce).

I'm not buying it until they fix the physical issues with the console. The dock does not protect the screen during docking/undocking. The joycon clips are impossible to remove if accidentally (easily) put on the wrong side. Left joycon tends to desync for no reason. Also, a lack of a definitive library is keeping me away from it. The virtual console is not on Switch. So far the only Switch title I want is Breath of the Wild, and there is nothing they've announced that I'm interested in.

I'll be getting a Wii U this weekend and enjoying Breath of the Wild in slightly lower resolution, with the bonus of having a vast library and the virtual console.

I didn't really think there was an issue with the screen lacking protection during the docking process, from videos of the Switch it seems to have enough clearance that the screen wouldn't get scratched or damaged. That aside, the one thing that bugged after I was brought up in this one review I watched was the flimsy kickstand and how useless it is as a stand, I hope they fix that and the price of the console here in Canada - it's more expensive than a PS4 AFAIK.

Is the Virtual Console not coming to the Switch? I know they mentioned missing features, such as Netflix, are coming in future updates. I haven't had a Nintendo console since the Wii, and even then I only ever bought a Wii title digitally (which I'm assuming won't be compatible with the Switch), but does the Virtual Console work like the PSN where you can re-dowload your stuff on compatible devices, i.e. you can download PS1 games on a PS3, PS4, PS Vita and probably PS TV?

Posted by: Tessou Mar 9 2017, 10:34 PM
VC might be coming to Switch, and I hope it does, but it's not there now and supply is so laughably low that there is no reason, other than "having the newest thing", to get it. The only high rated game for the system right now is Zelda. Never buy a console for one game.

The dock does not cradle the system correctly/firmly. There is no padding at the top of the slot, and thus nothing protecting the screen from running along hard plastic when docking and undocking. There are already a fair amount of examples of tarnished screens due to this issue. I've seen a few videos talking about how the package is great except for the dock, which feels cheaply made. The screen itself is also highly prone to scratches, which does not mean great things when combined with the dock as it is now. Granted, a cheap piece of felt or eyeglass cloth taped to the top of the dock solves the problem for the most part, but for a $300 piece of hardware, there is no reason we should be doing that in the first place.

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Posted by: BOZZ Mar 9 2017, 10:45 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 10 minutes, 23 seconds ago)
VC might be coming to Switch, and I hope it does, but it's not there now and supply is so laughably low that there is no reason, other than "having the newest thing", to get it. The only high rated game for the system right now is Zelda. Never buy a console for one game.

The dock does not cradle the system correctly/firmly. There is no padding at the top of the slot, and thus nothing protecting the screen from running along hard plastic when docking and undocking. There are already a fair amount of examples of tarnished screens due to this issue. I've seen a few videos talking about how the package is great except for the dock, which feels cheaply made. The screen itself is also highly prone to scratches, which does not mean great things when combined with the dock as it is now. Granted, a cheap piece of felt or eyeglass cloth taped to the top of the dock solves the problem for the most part, but for a $300 piece of hardware, there is no reason we should be doing that in the first place.

Well there are a few decent titles in the digital store, like Shovel Knight or I Am Setsuna, but the offerings for a new console are pretty bare, makes me wonder if Nimtendo rushed the release.

As for those scratches, all I got to say is damn. I wonder why they made such a low quality, in terms of scratch resistance, screen when a similarly sized iPad mini (only about $100 more than the Switch here) seemingly has far better resistance to scratches. My original iPad mini, which aside from the first few months where I used a screen protector after I bought it when it launched, has been used without a screen protector has only a 2-3 extremely minor scratches. I guess buying a decent screen protector might be a smart idea in the short term.

Posted by: Tessou Mar 9 2017, 10:56 PM
QUOTE (BOZZ @ 11 minutes, 12 seconds ago)
Well there are a few decent titles in the digital store, like Shovel Knight or I Am Setsuna, but the offerings for a new console are pretty bare, makes me wonder if Nimtendo rushed the release.

They literally did the exact same thing with the Wii U, which was why it had such a poor launch. Barely any decent games at launch, high price, lack of an aggressive ad campaign.

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 9 2017, 11:00 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 4 minutes, 29 seconds ago)
They literally did the exact same thing with the Wii U, which was why it had such a poor launch. Barely any decent games at launch, high price, lack of an aggressive ad campaign.

Heh, for a second there I was wondering if you bolded that part of my post to highlight my typo of Nintendo.

Considering they did the same thing with the launch of the Wii U, I am surprised they decided to repeat the process and do it again. Are they also artificially increasing demand by shipping limited quantities of the Switch like they did for the mini-NES when that launched? I haven't read anything that says they're doing that.

Posted by: Tessou Mar 9 2017, 11:14 PM
They won't say that they're throttling production, but it worked to drive up demand when preorders dissipated in a matter of hours. Look at the ridiculous prices showing up on eBay for a Switch.

Honestly I don't know why they're doing this. It only serves the private market (eBay, craigslist) and doesn't give them anything but angry customers, especially when the product they're selling already has issues with quality. They announced the console many months ago. There was more than enough time to get production speeding along, with the kind of money and influence Nintendo has. They should not have a problem finding factories to make the fucking thing, but apparently they do, or they're just not making enough on purpose for some reason. Take your pick. Either way, the consumer loses.

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 9 2017, 11:21 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 6 minutes, 49 seconds ago)
They won't say that they're throttling production, but it worked to drive up demand when preorders dissipated in a matter of hours. Look at the ridiculous prices showing up on eBay for a Switch.

Honestly I don't know why they're doing this. It only serves the private market (eBay, craigslist) and doesn't give them anything but angry customers, especially when the product they're selling already has issues with quality. They announced the console many months ago. There was more than enough time to get production speeding along, with the kind of money and influence Nintendo has. They should not have a problem finding factories to make the fucking thing, but apparently they do, or they're just not making enough on purpose for some reason. Take your pick. Either way, the consumer loses.

Is it really a problem with production and lack of factories to build the damn thing? That sounds pretty shocking to me.

Posted by: Tessou Mar 9 2017, 11:40 PM
It probably isn't a problem, unless they're purposefully making it a problem. I doubt it's physically difficult to make, so I have to wonder why they released so few of them when there was plenty of lead time between the announcement and street date. They've done it before and never explained why.

My trackers have indicated that the next shipment of Switch consoles comes around mid-April. How's that for lead time?

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 9 2017, 11:48 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 8 minutes, 10 seconds ago)
It probably isn't a problem, unless they're purposefully making it a problem. I doubt it's physically difficult to make, so I have to wonder why they released so few of them when there was plenty of lead time between the announcement and street date. They've done it before and never explained why.

My trackers have indicated that the next shipment of Switch consoles comes around mid-April. How's that for lead time?

Hmmm, does that mean Switches won't be in stock until then? I've read some local shops, like Toys R Us, are supposed to have them in stock as early as tomorrow.

This whole thing reminds me of iPhone launches, except it doesn't seem like Apple is artificially lowering the amount of devices they ship.

Posted by: Tessou Mar 9 2017, 11:49 PM
I'm getting nothing out of TRU. They're simply "out of stock".

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 9 2017, 11:54 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 4 minutes, 22 seconds ago)
I'm getting nothing out of TRU. They're simply "out of stock".

Might be local to Canada, since it was on a Canadian tech site where I read that particular piece of news.

Posted by: Tessou Mar 10 2017, 04:01 PM
So far the streamers I watched have not experienced many issues with the Switch. Vinesauce Vinny only had the left joycon desync a few times.

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 10 2017, 08:15 PM
I just heard about that in a podcast I listen to, apparently the right joycon has the Bluetooth antennae and the left joycon has some sort of integrated chip for connectivity or something along those lines.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Mar 11 2017, 08:22 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ Mar 10 2017, 01:11 AM)
Breath of the Wild is a complete reinvention of Zelda games, though. You should check out some streams (read: Vinesauce).

I'm not buying it until they fix the physical issues with the console. The dock does not protect the screen during docking/undocking. The joycon clips are impossible to remove if accidentally (easily) put on the wrong side. Left joycon tends to desync for no reason. Also, a lack of a definitive library is keeping me away from it. The virtual console is not on Switch. So far the only Switch title I want is Breath of the Wild, and there is nothing they've announced that I'm interested in.

I'll be getting a Wii U this weekend and enjoying Breath of the Wild in slightly lower resolution, with the bonus of having a vast library and the virtual console.

I watched a couple streams earlier and I'm sold. Probably going to get the Wii U version as well.

As for the physical issues on the Switch, you'd think Nintendo would've learned from the 3DS. I remember the 3DS having problems with the buttons scratching and leaving marks when you closed the system. There was no clearance between the buttons and screen. I still keep a small paper insert in between when I take it places.

Also, if you're planning on getting a Switch eventually, don't go too crazy on Wii U VC titles. You will have to repurchase them on the Switch(If the Switch ever updates the eshop.)

Posted by: Tessou Mar 11 2017, 08:27 PM
Meh, got a Wii U today. Not gonna... switch until the price goes down and build quality improves. 720p Wii U version of BotW on a 50" screen looks just fine.

Posted by: THE_HONDA_CG2 Mar 15 2017, 07:39 PM
Just waiting on the hype to go down before getting mine. My coworkers keep talking about Breath of the Wild like I'm currently playing it. I have to keep reminding them that I'm not. laugh.gif

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Posted by: Nerubian Mar 16 2017, 09:04 AM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ Mar 12 2017, 06:22 AM)
Also, if you're planning on getting a Switch eventually, don't go too crazy on Wii U VC titles. You will have to repurchase them on the Switch(If the Switch ever updates the eshop.)

That's so damn stupid. I was annoyed that you had to rebuy VC games for Wii U when you already bought them on Wii. Nothing beats the Wii VC in terms of variety of games. When I first browsed the Wii U VC (last year) I thought it was a bad joke because of its small amount of games. And it barely got better over time.

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 16 2017, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (Nerubian @ 7 hours, 8 minutes ago)
That's so damn stupid. I was annoyed that you had to rebuy VC games for Wii U when you already bought them on Wii. Nothing beats the Wii VC in terms of variety of games. When I first browsed the Wii U VC (last year) I thought it was a bad joke because of its small amount of games. And it barely got better over time.

That seems like a stupid decision on the part of Nintendo, especially when the market leader, Sony, doesn't do that.

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Posted by: Tessou Mar 16 2017, 09:55 PM
I plan on keeping the Wii U around for a while considering the VC library is competent enough for me. It still can't emulate GB/GC games, which bugs the shit out of me. I need Eternal Darkness right now.

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 17 2017, 08:28 AM
QUOTE (Tessou @ Today, 1:55 AM)
I plan on keeping the Wii U around for a while considering the VC library is competent enough for me. It still can't emulate GB/GC games, which bugs the shit out of me. I need Eternal Darkness right now.

Are GB/GC games a part of the VC?

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Posted by: Tessou Mar 17 2017, 08:38 AM
GB games are on the 3DS VC. GC hasn't been available since the original Wii's ability to read GC discs.

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 18 2017, 02:03 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ Yesterday, 12:38 PM)
GB games are on the 3DS VC. GC hasn't been available since the original Wii's ability to read GC discs.

So, let's see if I got this right, some of the old stuff is only available on certain devices, like you can't play GB games on the Wii U and only on the 3DS...?

Posted by: Tessou Mar 18 2017, 06:28 PM
Right. I can play GBA games on the Wii U. I cannot see standard GB/GBC games on the store. When I'm on the 3DS, the GB games appear.

Posted by: BOZZ Mar 19 2017, 10:49 AM
QUOTE (Tessou @ Yesterday, 10:28 PM)
Right. I can play GBA games on the Wii U. I cannot see standard GB/GBC games on the store. When I'm on the 3DS, the GB games appear.

That's so silly on the part of Nintendo, I'm guessing it'll be more of the same on the Switch.

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