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> Initial D 8 Online Mode and Updates
John61590
  Posted: Oct 14 2016, 08:17 PM


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Can someone describe how to get an Initial D 8 machine online? At all R1 locations in USA, they don't seem to have it online and there isn't really much information on how to get it online.

Also, regarding updates, how does one update it? I read somewhere that you could update it by USB but I've never seen the files online.
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Posted: Oct 14 2016, 09:31 PM


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You have to get the arcade machine on SEGA online service called ALL.NET but since you are from the US then you can't because SEGA doesn't offer it there for arcade owners in the US.

And no, the machine have to be updated via online. Not sure where you got that info from.
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Unfortunately, long story short you won't be able to get it online in the US especially with JPN machines since those aren't allowed to go online outside Japan.

Besides, even if that restriction isn't in place, your arcade needs Sega permission to access their ALL.Net service, which requires your arcades to pay a monthly subscription fee and a revenue sharing agreement, meaning they will get a small cut of every game played when a machine is online-enabled, including non-online modes.

Sega doesn't allow US arcades to go online likely because the latency is too high with the rest of the main servers, which are located in East Asia. In addition, there's also the time difference which makes it hard to connect to the rest. Recent IDAS have very strict latency requirements, even over here in Asia you will be rejected if your latency is too high. They'll even send a technician there to assess whether your arcade connection is viable and all that.

They were apparently considering allowing US to have access at the start of D8 though but it ultimately fell through.

Sega isn't above making regional servers (as they have shown in China until D7), but there has to be a big enough base for that and the US IDAS base just isn't large enough for that. Even us other Asian countries that have it only have it because we are geographically close enough to share the Japanese servers. Otherwise, our player bases won't be enough to get our own servers either.

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QUOTE (SonicSP @ 3 hours, 18 minutes ago)
your arcade needs Sega permission to access their ALL.Net service, which requires your arcades to pay a monthly subscription fee and a revenue sharing agreement, meaning they will get a small cut of every game played when a machine is online-enabled, including non-online modes.

Wow that's very greedy of them. I don't know of any other company that does that with their arcade games.
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QUOTE (John61590 @ 1 hour, 42 minutes ago)
Wow that's very greedy of them. I don't know of any other company that does that with their arcade games.


I am under the impression that it's standard practice in Japan when it comes to online access for arcade machines. It's really not that much different than say paying, a monthly fee to access PlayStation Network and Xbox Live from Sony and Microsoft. But yeah, the "and" sucks.

Unfortunately open servers as a trend in video gaming isn't like it used to be even in mainstream gaming. Companies much prefer to use closed propieratary servers.

Personally the monthly fee doesn't bother me though the revenue sharing does. The amount they get per game isn't a lot but still it cuts into the margins of the arcade. Maybe it's not so bad in Japan where arcades are still a big thing but outside Japan, it can be a bad sounding deal especially for those of us who have weak currencies.

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wait now if they have closed servers, lets say a buddy of mine goes over seas for college and finds a d8 arcade in jpan. if my card from the us gets used and purchase lets say the brz only accessible through a online cabinet. if brought back to the US will the card still work, will the car still be there? or will the card become corrupt?
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QUOTE (elfluffy69 @ 4 minutes, 46 seconds ago)
wait now if they have closed servers, lets say a buddy of mine goes over seas for college and finds a d8 arcade in jpan. if my card from the us gets used and purchase lets say the brz only accessible through a online cabinet. if brought back to the US will the card still work, will the car still be there? or will the card become corrupt?