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DownhillFR-S | Posted: Jan 28 2015, 03:02 PM |
IDW Regular Member Group: Members Posts: 243 Member No.: 34,205 Joined: Oct 23rd 2009 Location: USA | Image size reduced, original size: 3264 x 2448. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Alright! So, I've finally modded far enough that I feel the need for a build thread. I picked the car up last May with 21,000 miles on her, with just a few nicks in the paint, and have since been working on making her mine. The end goal is a competent, quick street car - I admit she won't see a lot of track time as there isn't one reasonably close, but there's lots of back-road twisties around here that are great fun. While she did start life as a Scion, I have no love of that brand, and don't really feel that's what the car is. As I started modding, I discovered that almost everything I pull off of the car or replace is branded "Subaru" - So I decided to call a spade a spade and badge her accordingly. The STi badge won't be just for show after long - I have some goodies from JapanParts on order, and in the future an AVO turbo kit will back up the badge. Mod list - Wheels and Tires FIVE:AD S7:F in Silver - 19" Pirelli P-Zero Nero High-Performance Summer tires Aero and Lighting Five:AD spoiler - Firestorm Red Buddy Club JDM tail lights LED running light foglight replacements Interior and badging Cobb shift knob STi badge Subaru rear emblem 86 steering wheel cover-up badge Subaru center trim cover Performance Top Speed catted UEL header Top Speed down pipe Top Speed over pipe OFT FA20Club air intake Megan Racing front strut bar ================Future Mods=================== Racesing pulley kit Reverse Lockout Whiteline shifter bushings Whiteline engine mounts Rear trailing arms Rear subframe brace Brembo break kit AVO turbo kit TMIC + Intake hood Pictures (More incoming!) Image size reduced, original size: 3264 x 2448. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 3264 x 2448. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 3264 x 2448. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 2611 x 1958. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 2611 x 1958. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 2448 x 3264. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 3264 x 2448. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 3264 x 2448. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 2448 x 3264. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 3264 x 2448. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 2448 x 3264. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 3264 x 2448. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: 3264 x 2448. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. [img]http://i.imgur.com/0G1As |
sideways | Posted: Jan 28 2015, 05:21 PM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Aughta get some video so we can hear that exhaust |
Lonely_Driver | Posted: Jan 28 2015, 05:49 PM |
IDW Supremo Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 870 Member No.: 38,019 Joined: Oct 24th 2011 Location: Update Profile | UEL header |
DeeezNuuuts83 | Posted: Jan 28 2015, 06:04 PM |
IDW Goldmember Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,840 Member No.: 25,374 Joined: Jul 18th 2007 Location: Southern California | Personally I'm not a fan of throwing Subaru/STI badges on an FR-S, but if it makes you happy, knock yourself out. Any idea what kind of power you'd be putting down with your current mods? |
Spaz | Posted: Jan 29 2015, 09:20 AM |
Just a guy towing a car across the country to chase a dream. Group: FORUM MODERATOR Posts: 9,272 Member No.: 30,193 Joined: Jul 25th 2008 Location: Plymouth, MN | I'd like to hear the exhaust as well. Also, I'm excited to see what it makes with the turbo kit, this should be a good thread! |
DownhillFR-S | Posted: Jan 29 2015, 03:51 PM | ||
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Eh, I can understand the badging issue, but it seems so silly to call it a Scion when that's such a meh brand. And calling it a Toyota is fine, for the home market, but literally everything I pull off the car is branded Subaru. Example: My VIN number stickers have the Subaru logo on them. The heat shielding did too. As for numbers being put down, I'm waiting to schedule a dyno. One of my exhaust gaskets on the down pipe either deteriorated or wasn't installed properly, so I have a very small (very annoying) exhaust leak. Also waiting on my OFT to get a proper tune on it before I do too much driving with it. Lonely_Driver, what's wrong with the UEL? They provide more mid-range torque, where as EL headers tend to cater to the top end of the power band, which is where these cars make all their power anyways. The goal with the UEL is to eliminate the 3.5k to 4.5k torque dip issue. Video will be coming as soon as the dyno tune happens sometime soon! This post has been edited by DownhillFR-S on Jan 29 2015, 03:52 PM | ||
DeeezNuuuts83 | Posted: Jan 29 2015, 09:44 PM | ||
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Don't get me wrong, I understand your reasoning. I just personally wouldn't do it, even if Subaru physically manufactured most of the car. If it bothers you that much to the point where you want to throw on Subaru emblems, is there a reason why you didn't just get a BRZ in the first place? Just curious. | ||
08TTGSL | Posted: Jan 30 2015, 01:27 AM |
Eww evo Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,407 Member No.: 19,156 Joined: Jul 26th 2006 Location: Seattle, WA | I'd stay away from the avo kit personally. This post has been edited by 08TTGSL on Jan 30 2015, 01:27 AM |
DownhillFR-S | Posted: Jan 30 2015, 04:18 AM | ||
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Didn't want the upscale interior. Also did not like the front bumper nearly as much. Boomerang headlights also didn't do it for me. Also: What's wrong with the AVO kit? I've not seen any bad responses over on ft86 club. | ||
08TTGSL | Posted: Jan 30 2015, 06:46 PM |
Eww evo Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,407 Member No.: 19,156 Joined: Jul 26th 2006 Location: Seattle, WA | I used to have an avo turbo on the frs. It's good quality but the kit itself is too limited if your looking to make the car competitive. If you spend that much money you can get a full blown kit with a gtx30 trim turbo and have better results. |
Lonely_Driver | Posted: Jan 31 2015, 09:08 AM | ||
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I have a really hard time beleiving that after owning a NA subaru and installing UEL header robbed a lot of power compared to the stock EL If it were the case then most NA tuned engines would have UEL headers which they do not. And from riding/driving local BRZ/FRS friends cars, the torque dip is mostly in the tune. | ||
DownhillFR-S | Posted: Jan 31 2015, 10:39 AM | ||
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Eh, I disagree. Even untuned I can feel a considerable difference in the dip there. Also, you're also a Subaru owner, you can't tell me that you don't appreciate the Boxer rumble. | ||
Spaz | Posted: Jan 31 2015, 10:50 AM | ||
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I'm sure the graph on their website is from before the car inevitably blew up... Since that's what those guys do. | ||
sideways | Posted: Jan 31 2015, 11:51 AM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | If I recall the argument between UEL and EL on these cars is largely just a matter of taste, with good examples from either basket producing relatively similar numbers. A good header and a tune seem to get these car reliably around 180ish whp (again, with neither one really proving reliably to be "superior" at all, anywhere along the power band), which for a car that had 160ish whp, that aint too shabby at all. Basically, if you like the subaru rumble, go UEL, if you dont, go EL. Tune the car. Profit. The "dip" seems to be a harmonics thing with the stock intake/exhaust system. There a *lot* of controversy over what exactly is causing it, and even what exactly it is. Some call it a dip, some think its a bump in the lower section to give a bit more down low that doesnt carry through completely to the upper rpms. Some think its related to the injecetion set up (the timing at it jumps around from direct injection and port injection is in the same range). But it does seem a solid exhaust and tune held flatten it out (whatever "it" actually is) a lot (it still seems to be present, but not as present). And if anyone has any good solid information on this, please cite it. I havent dug into it in awhile so im curious. |
Lonely_Driver | Posted: Jan 31 2015, 12:01 PM | ||
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well disagree all you want but I can tell from experience that its worse. As for appreciating the sound I'm indifferent, its fun for scaring or confusing people but a EL or twinscroll setup makes more power and is more effecient | ||
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DownhillFR-S | Posted: Mar 7 2015, 08:34 PM |
IDW Regular Member Group: Members Posts: 243 Member No.: 34,205 Joined: Oct 23rd 2009 Location: USA | Minor update: Got the exhaust installed, awaiting a catback. Got it tuned for the catless downpipe and 93 octane only. Also got my wheels and tires put on! Goodbye gaudy AD5 concept wheels! Image size reduced, original size: 3264 x 2448. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. 18x8.5 front and 18x9.5 rear, 255/45/18 in the back, 225/35/18 in the front. This post has been edited by DownhillFR-S on Mar 7 2015, 08:35 PM |
THE_HONDA_CG2 | Posted: Mar 8 2015, 05:50 AM |
Patient Zero Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,279 Member No.: 37,947 Joined: Oct 1st 2011 Location: Update Profile | Sexy stuff! I'd really love to see video of it in action. Out of curiosity, is this the same FR-S featured in your other thread? |
DownhillFR-S | Posted: Mar 8 2015, 08:36 AM | ||
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Sure is. Decided that, since that one devolved in to body kits and arguments about tail lights, I'd give it a proper build thread and just keep the updates here. | ||
kenji? | Posted: Mar 10 2015, 01:17 PM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 10 Member No.: 45,304 Joined: Mar 3rd 2015 Location: illinois | my limited vocabulary doesn't allow me to completely express how i feel about those tail lights, so short version is, EVERY frs/brz should run those tail lights. GOD I LOVE THOSE TAIL LIGHTS! |
THE_HONDA_CG2 | Posted: Mar 10 2015, 03:49 PM | ||
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What's a thread in automotive if it doesn't have at least one argument about something that is a personal opinion? Anyway back on topic. I love the rims! I'm still waiting for more pictures. | ||
Tessou | Posted: Mar 11 2015, 01:45 AM |
More NEGATIVE than a black hole Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 19,345 Member No.: 12,263 Joined: Sep 12th 2005 Location: Update Profile | One could say that personal opinion is what created this thread in the first place, so the argument of "it was off topic" is rather moot. |
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Wanadrift | Posted: Mar 14 2015, 11:50 AM |
IDW Expert Member Group: Members Posts: 134 Member No.: 5,761 Joined: Feb 24th 2005 Location: Update Profile | That 5AD stuff just doesn't work on the 86 for me. It looks MUCH better now that you've got proper wheels on it. |
DownhillFR-S | Posted: Mar 23 2015, 02:14 PM | ||
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100% agree. Those wheels are goofy. Lots of updates incoming as soon as I get the videos taken! | ||
RedsunsF1 | Posted: Mar 23 2015, 08:07 PM |
Nasa UT | FF FK8 Group: Advanced Members Posts: 865 Member No.: 38,401 Joined: Feb 29th 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, UT | I would just focus on suspension mods since it's a great handling car. Get some coilovers!! |