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If that weasel did not cross the road. Tomo would have won. Takumi is just very lucky during that battle.

If it were a closed circuit course on a flat area, tomo would beat takumi

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guys who like to say they are fast are usaly the slow ones. be wary of the silent type who says he "is just ok"


This post has been edited by r35gtr on Jan 25 2016, 01:34 AM

Still better than the Tokyopop ...debacle.

Far as how the two would actually perform?

Besides how we'd have to actually see that happen (which will not happen anytime soon), I can't say.

But since this is 'what if?' here's my baseless speculation.

For starters there's a matter of how they'll begin their careers in the professional circuit. Not to mention what they'll be aiming for which can be many things.

Super Taikyu could be a potential 'start' depending on things. If assuming they would stick to racing on tarmac, it could progress up to and including Japan Super GT (GT300 then 500 or even jump to GT500), or a Formula series.

How they would fair would really boil down to how they'd deal with their competition. Granted there's always going to be very skilled and unskilled drivers but to even survive or get employment is a case by case basis.

For someone like Keisuke, I personally picture him doing production sports cars from Super Taikyu to even making up to Prototype racing, such as the Asian Le-mans series...

Or even up to the likes of an LMP1 team such as Toyota (I'd include Nissan but nissan axed that...thanks Nissan for snuffing out a flame before it could really start)...

Or even pursue Formula style racing, maybe get a shot at F1, or even Indycar.

Hell we could make a humor based episode if there was NASCAR race in Japan and Keisuke decided to give that a shot.


Much of what I already rambled, though he'd have to accept a certain reality...

Sooner or later he'll loose because there's almost always someone better.

Even applying to the likes of Sebsatian Loeb or any other very, very very hard to defeat racer.

I'd be curious how he'd accept that, or even better...how'd he's do everything legal and sportmanlike to not lose only to find it can't be avoided for reasons.

We'd have to see...or just speculate...or write fanfiction...I dunno.

eh...what the hell am I even trying to say?

I think for the first few years, seasoned pro's would walk over the two.

one of the " street racer's" advantage is the fear of the "oncoming traffic"

this was shown by Kyoichi in stage two. and again this was shown by Kai on his rematch with Takumi on the 5th stage.

always, the circuit trained/ pro racers have the fear of hitting oncoming traffic. but since they will battle it out on a closed circuit where there is no oncoming traffic, ONe of Keisuke's and Takmi's major advantage would be eliminated. so the pro racers can go all out against the two

I always thought that Takumi would make an excellent WRC driver, and Keisuke likewise for JGTC.

I wonder who'd be a good Navi for the both of them respectively though?

Takumi would rather be sponsored a lot by Hoonigan, Monster, Rockstar, etc. like Ken Block or Tanner Faust while Keisuke could be like Lewis Hamilton or some other Touring Car racer.

To be honest... I think Takumi's an airhead, he'd drive race-boats if the wind is going that direction; Keisuke's got an overabundance of pride and pouts like a princess~ XD

If anyone could be a legend, it'd be Ryosuke. But he's got a spiffy office at his father's hospital and/or a cushy internship at Doctors w/o Borders to let something as trivial as racing cloud his head~

To be honest... I think Takumi's an airhead, he'd drive race-boats if the wind is going that direction; Keisuke's got an overabundance of pride and pouts like a princess~ XD

If anyone could be a legend, it'd be Ryosuke. But he's got a spiffy office at his father's hospital and/or a cushy internship at Doctors w/o Borders to let something as trivial as racing cloud his head~

Ryosuke would've gone to Tokyo and joined the Wangan Highway with the BlackBird. (Work and Racing)

Close nough.

Y'all haven't seen Seventh Stage yet!?

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Initial D:Hidden stage

I can imagine a Custom Body FC3S with a Supercharger cruising down the highway at 300 Kmph. In fact, the event with Shinigami R-32 would've been the first sightings of it. Who knows. Matsumoto might've battled with BlackBird or Z. (why call it Zed)

It's not like that hasn't happened already.

If the Fifth Stage anime is any indication, Takumi and Keisuke will just teleport all over the place because that's how driving fast works, and the pros will be completely baffled, and some of them will wonder how Takumi gets so much traction out of an FR as if good setups, sticky tires, smooth steering combined with good footwork and "not setting the diff to lock too hard and send too much power to the outside wheel" are completely alien concepts to them.
Except for those one or two other pros that also just teleport all over the place while every 10 seconds of racing the camera cuts to dull 5 minute static shots of the peanut gallery saying little of interest. But then they'll break a wing or slam their brakes mid-corner like a complete amateur or something.

Being more serious though, the double aces would at least be middle of the pack at the start. There would be a few pros nearly or just as skilled as them who have more experience with everything circuit racing entails, and there would be pros whose driving abilities are better than the average person's but not truly great. They'd only do any worse than that if they messed up on pit strategies and tire use or if they had trouble coming up with good setups. As far as setups are concerned they've both attained experience telling the mechanics exactly what could be better, so they probably wouldn't do too bad on those even if they didn't have absolute geniuses overseeing their setups for them. As far as tires go that's one area where Takumi might have slight problems, because he's been used to a much lighter car with relatively little power that's been pretty forgiving when it comes to aggressive driving, but he'd know driving 100% all the time would be a pretty bad decision and his inputs are smooth enough to slightly minimize tire wear even when he has to push it, so it might not be too much of an issue for him. And pitting strategies may be the one thing they'd need to get the hang of as it'd be completely unfamiliar to them, but it's likely they wouldn't make particularly ill-thought-out strategies, and all this assumes whichever racing series either one ends up in even has pitting strategies or pit stops at all.

And of course, all this is assuming circuit racing. Both Takumi and Keisuke could easily kick all sorts of ass in rally or hillclimbs.

So yeah, I wouldn't expect them to be champions right away, but they'd have a decent start so long as they aren't stuck with cars way slower than the competition's (most of their competition wouldn't be slouches in the driving department, making differences in car performance matter more) or have trouble with their setups (a lot of the cars would be similar in baseline performance, so having the better setup could easily provide a significant advantage).

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People still completely misinterpret that one line and think Ryousuke had a supercharger installed on a rotary? It wouldn't even be useful in this case. Superchargers need torque to run properly (because they don't just run off exhaust gases like turbos do) and rotary engines generally aren't known for torque. Supercharged rotary builds aren't impossible, but the work it'd take just wouldn't be worth it when the twin turbo that's already in his FC has very little lag (make that practically no lag because he's also good at keeping the revs up), could simply have the boost raised on it, would be much easier for them to work with in general, and is probably quite a bit lighter than whatever sort of supercharger would be required for a rotary.

This post has been edited by Meteor on Jan 28 2016, 04:38 PM

They're Jumpers I tell you, Jumpers!!!

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But you saw it... it's the Devil Zed! ♪

Then what exactly was it trying to convey? Was Shingeno just smoking some bad weed or what?

(Also the new movie is absolutely bullshit. How does Takumi start up a car that is a manual by turning the key? Its utter bullshit )

Here's how that little exchange breaks down. Ryousuke calls Matsumoto, Matsumoto jokingly asks if he's thinking of throwing a supercharger on the 86, and then Ryousuke clarifies that he's calling about getting his FC tuned, causing Matsumoto to exclaim "The FC?!" in surprise. That's all.
The thing about a supercharger was simply Matsumoto being funny and was specifically in regards to the 86, and nothing is said about supercharging the FC. The only reason anyone interpreted it that way was because instead of just showing what Ryousuke said in detail, the story just cut to Matsumoto's reaction to snappily get the point across - a simple and not uncommon writing trick that can help make a scene more fast-paced.

How stupid can one be? You don't need to press the clutch when you start a Japanese car with a manual transmission. This only applies to Japanese cars in Japan.

That's not stupid, that's just uniformed. I didn't know this either.

If the car's in neutral you don't need to touch the clutch. Newer cars may require the clutch switch be disconnected to do this (I've done so in my Evo) but it's definitely possible.

So you don't need to do anything except turning the key. Nice. Didn't know that.

Every car needs an F-14 flip-switch ignition~

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This post has been edited by xiao on Feb 2 2016, 02:05 AM

Next time, be more constructive in your response. There's no need to be a jerk just because you perceive another member as "stupid" in not knowing some relatively obscure fact. I'm watching you.

Sorry, just trying to be more like you. And watch me if you like. Do you want me to send you a pic of me too, tough boy?

You do realize you're talking to an admin, right?

Hey guys, do we bring out the popcorn now? I mean this is already more interesting than how Initial D anime's been after OB Planning stopped being involved.