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Posted by: APX Jun 18 2015, 11:09 AM
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The man suspected of killing nine people at a prayer meeting at a historic black church in this city’s downtown area was caught on Thursday some 200 miles away in North Carolina, local and federal officials said.

After an intensive, 14-hour manhunt for the man who carried out a massacre that officials are calling racially motivated, Dylann Storm Roof, 21, “was arrested in Shelby, N.C., during a traffic stop” shortly after 11 a.m., said Greg Mullen, the Charleston police chief.

The police here say Mr. Roof, who is white, is suspected of being the gunman who walked into the prayer meeting Wednesday night, sat down with black parishioners for nearly an hour, and then opened fire.

The Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, the F.B.I., and the United States Attorney’s Office for South Carolina have opened a hate crime investigation into the shooting, which left six women and three men dead, and Chief Mullen has called it a hate crime.

“We will now be looking at all of the facts, all of the motivations that led this individual, if in fact he is the shooter,” to carry out the killings, Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch said at a news conference.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting.html?_r=0

A real tragedy, specially with the talk of that the person (Who may or may not be the person in custody) sat in the church for a good hour before he began firing. Will this be a push into bringing the gun laws to discussion in the courts? probably not, but it gives an idea, specially they say his father bought a 45 caliber for him for his 21st birthday. Sad, a place for peace and tranquility turned into something bad. sad.gif

Posted by: Hannah Jun 18 2015, 11:27 AM
White criminal - HE WAS SUCH A NICE QUIET PERSON WOULDN'T HURT ANYONE ALWAYS KEPT TO HIMSELF NICE KID BLABLABLA

Black criminal - DIRTY SCUMBAG HOOLIGAN HOODLUM MONSTER TRASH EXPLETIVE EXPLETIVE etc etc etc


Im so sick of people judging criminals based on the color of their goddamn skin. I swear to God if I hear anyone cry about what a "sweet young man" whatver bullshit, I'm gonna bash their kneecaps. :C

Posted by: Rudy Jun 18 2015, 12:06 PM
This guy is a sicko. Hope he gets the electric chair.

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Posted by: Spaz Jun 18 2015, 12:33 PM
QUOTE (Hannah @ 1 hour, 5 minutes ago)
White criminal - HE WAS SUCH A NICE QUIET PERSON WOULDN'T HURT ANYONE ALWAYS KEPT TO HIMSELF NICE KID BLABLABLA

Black criminal - DIRTY SCUMBAG HOOLIGAN HOODLUM MONSTER TRASH EXPLETIVE EXPLETIVE etc etc etc

Trayvon and Brown were both praised as good people by those close to them, and both attacked people designated to keep the peace, losing their lives in the process. Poor choices are colorblind, anyone can make them.

Posted by: Rudy Jun 18 2015, 02:40 PM
Like the time Brown assaulted a homeless man and best him to within an inch of his life, then stole his watch and backpack full of belongings?

That isn't exactly my idea of a good person. rolleyes.gif

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Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 18 2015, 06:04 PM
QUOTE (Hannah @ 6 hours, 31 minutes ago)
White criminal - HE WAS SUCH A NICE QUIET PERSON WOULDN'T HURT ANYONE ALWAYS KEPT TO HIMSELF NICE KID BLABLABLA

Black criminal - DIRTY SCUMBAG HOOLIGAN HOODLUM MONSTER TRASH EXPLETIVE EXPLETIVE etc etc etc


Im so sick of people judging criminals based on the color of their goddamn skin. I swear to God if I hear anyone cry about what a "sweet young man" whatver bullshit, I'm gonna bash their kneecaps. :C

What Spaz said below you. I haven't heard the media portray that divide in many years. For a good while it's been reversed because social justice is the hot issue of the moment.

QUOTE (Rudy @ 5 hours, 52 minutes ago)
This guy is a sicko. Hope he gets the electric chair.

Cue catty argument about the death penalty.

QUOTE (Rudy @ 3 hours, 19 minutes ago)
Like the time Brown assaulted a homeless man and best him to within an inch of his life, then stole his watch and backpack full of belongings?

That isn't exactly my idea of a good person. rolleyes.gif

But the media did a damn good job of turning it that way. Hell, they barely needed to - Twitter could have done the job itself.

Posted by: Rudy Jun 19 2015, 10:39 AM
Well it turns out this guy really is a psycho, even had a ban against him on buying a weapon in South Carolina (which is a VERY 2A-friendly state) and prior arrests... his Dad bought him the gun.

I don't even know what to say to that.

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Posted by: RalliKai Jun 19 2015, 11:09 AM
Parent of the year award. Seems like another case of too many warning signs noticed but ignored because "our kid is just misunderstood" kind of mentality. Life is imprisonment with no chance of parole is about the worst thing you can do to him.

Unfortunately, you've got the kneejerk reaction pundits, experts and politicians (the president included) jumping on the gun control wagon again despite there being nothing that would have realistically prevented this.

Posted by: Rudy Jun 19 2015, 11:45 AM
QUOTE (RalliKai @ 36 minutes, 24 seconds ago)
Life imprisonment with no chance of parole is about the worst thing you can do to him.

You forget he committed the crime in a Southern Justice state. Getting fried is a very real possibility for him.

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Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 19 2015, 12:10 PM
QUOTE (Rudy @ 1 hour, 31 minutes ago)
Well it turns out this guy really is a psycho, even had a ban against him on buying a weapon in South Carolina (which is a VERY 2A-friendly state) and prior arrests... his Dad bought him the gun.

The same thing happened with the Sandy Hook guy.

As an aside, the fact that any state still has the electric chair is almost equally disturbing.

Posted by: APX Jun 19 2015, 12:17 PM
I'm more of a firing squad type of man.

Gives each person the feeling they killed a man, without them truly knowing who gave the shot that took a killers life, most humane way to kill a killer, honestly.

Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 19 2015, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (APX @ 4 minutes, 21 seconds ago)
I'm more of a firing squad type of man.

Gives each person the feeling they killed a man, without them truly knowing who gave the shot that took a killers life, most humane way to kill a killer, honestly.

You'd actually have a really solid point if it weren't for the fact that it's inhumane for the executionee.

Posted by: APX Jun 19 2015, 12:44 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ 23 minutes, 19 seconds ago)
You'd actually have a really solid point if it weren't for the fact that it's inhumane for the executionee.

Seeing as I don't think they'd just pick a person off the street to do it, I don't think it would be.

Given they are told to sign some form of release/document saying they are well away of what they are about to do/see, I, for one, would be more than willing to be a shooter. That and maybe they'd be given some sort of information on the killer, who/how he killed the people, did he feel remorse about it during the trial/his sentence in jail (Not until the end, because everybody will say they feel remorse/sad for doing what they did when they know they will meet the same end)

But that's just me, I feel a hint of sadness for the fuckers getting the lethal injections, that's not how i'd like to go if given the death sentence.

Posted by: Spaz Jun 19 2015, 12:52 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ 30 minutes, 33 seconds ago)
You'd actually have a really solid point if it weren't for the fact that it's inhumane for the executionee.

Fuck that noise. Does anyone actually care if fuckers like this feel it or not?

The lethal injection that got messed up a while back and had the guy in immense pain until he passed out from it is the best thing to happen to humanane death penalties since they were introduced.

Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 19 2015, 01:34 PM
QUOTE (APX @ 48 minutes, 2 seconds ago)
Seeing as I don't think they'd just pick a person off the street to do it, I don't think it would be.

Given they are told to sign some form of release/document saying they are well away of what they are about to do/see, I, for one, would be more than willing to be a shooter. That and maybe they'd be given some sort of information on the killer, who/how he killed the people, did he feel remorse about it during the trial/his sentence in jail (Not until the end, because everybody will say they feel remorse/sad for doing what they did when they know they will meet the same end)

But that's just me, I feel a hint of sadness for the fuckers getting the lethal injections, that's not how i'd like to go if given the death sentence.

I said "executionee", not "executioner".

QUOTE (Spaz @ 40 minutes, 48 seconds ago)
Fuck that noise. Does anyone actually care if fuckers like this feel it or not?

The lethal injection that got messed up a while back and had the guy in immense pain until he passed out from it is the best thing to happen to humanane death penalties since they were introduced.

You're letting emotion cloud your judgement.

Posted by: Spaz Jun 20 2015, 06:15 AM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ Yesterday, 4:34 PM)
You're letting emotion cloud your judgement.

Probably.

If you'd like to make a case for why a humane death is a better option, I'm all ears.

Posted by: Tessou Jun 20 2015, 12:57 PM
The most humane, painless death would be carbon monoxide. You just fall asleep.

That said, this is slowly becoming a political thread. You know what happens to threads when political and moral debates become the topic.

Posted by: Rudy Jun 20 2015, 02:06 PM
Seconded. Let's keep this on topic and discuss as more news unfolds.

Posted by: APX Jun 20 2015, 02:24 PM
Well, the family of the nine who were Killed forgave the young man as he appeared in court via webcam, bit haunting if you see/hear the audio.

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