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Questions and comments about battle boosts (not tire management).

It seems like battling in-store with boost on is the norm on the YouTube vids for SS ranked players. I also believe that the battle boost isn't as rubber-band-y strong as previous IDs and other arcade games, and plus it makes it more fun rather than being outrun buy several hundred meters. Plus, aren't all network battles with boost on anyway?

However, I can't seem to shake the fact that good players always prefer boost off because of things like "it's all about skill" and want to outrun clearly under-tuned and less-skilled players by 400m or so. Such as myself, as I'm still learning the physics and lining. I don't need to be outrun by several hundred meters (and that's only at CP1 on most tracks) while still learning lines and braking points, but I want to be competitive, or at least fun.

Is it "wrong" to play with boost on and not "hold the brake" against clearly skilled players with FT record holder cars? I would want to always play with boost on, even when my skills improve, but I just want some credibility in it and not humiliation or ridicule.

in sgp is the other way, the veterans always play boost on.
whereas the newbies* will mostly boost off.

depends on the various id culture.

This post has been edited by Rei.G on Aug 13 2010, 07:44 AM

If I'm not mistaken, network battles can be Boost On or Off depending on the players agreeing to it.

There's nothing wrong with leaving Boost On - I don't think it's something which can be forced upon the player themselves.

I see nothing wrong with either method of play.

Boost off is fine if you've got dead equal statistics in terms of your cars; or even if the car is slightly biased in favor of the less skilled player on a specific map. Boost On is the general, all purpose chase-me-if-you-can mode where anything goes, really.

Your cup of tea.

In Indonesia, they prefer the boost off tradition though, boost ON often considered coward/cheating/not fair :/ , Since the players prefer to outrun it's opponent, as for I prefer it boost on, since it offer more challenge and taught me how to handle following opponent, in the end the one with better tire management has higher chances of winning.

That's the thing. I don't want to seem like a cheat or coward, but I still want a close, fun, and competitive race. It's already clear who's the faster or better one by looking at the fastest time board; so what makes boost off not fair?. I also don't want someone to tell me to put boost off.


Quick note: boost is what makes a game fun with more people. Just look at the other greatest racing game of all time, Daytona USA.

I don't normally play boost off, but depending on my confidence on the course, I'd boost off if I'm invited. I don't initiate boost off usually.

It's not as simple as previous versions, though, because even in boost on in IDAS5, skill still makes a huge difference. A can still win B 100+m in boost on if B's been wasting his tires on every corner. Skill is a huge factor in IDAS5. So, to say that boost on is meant for noobs isn't really correct, since it takes up more brainpower and skill to play boost on, imo.

really ah I always thought pros play w/o boost..I always play boost off if the other player's FT too(and lose badly to the person=((()..
my gf and I always play boost off coz we're equally unskilled..but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter coz it's all in the name of fun!unless it's a de-ranking match lol..

I have been watching battle videos recently with boost on and am wondering why they randomly brake on straight aways. Are they just playing around or is it strategy?

It strategy... waiting for their opponent to come closed so that they will let the rival to pass and use the boost at the very last corner or last section.... That the reason why I hate boost on battle....

They randomly brake on straights to conserve the "tire boost". Since there's no reason to push your corner speeds in battle especially boost on, when they lead they'll randomly brake on straights, take corners slower etc.

Tire boost is much stronger than the battle boost assist. Especially in EXP2.0 - if you have less tire boost than the guy in front don't expect to catch up even if you have the battle boost assist helping you.

I see lol. Seems funny tho and makes the driving style look kinda ugly. If its a boost off battle you would just drive normally right?

Yes, but the guy behind in a boost off is free to overspeed and try to overtake.

ooo. i didnt kno that. but wont their boost be effected if they just overspeed into a corner?

It would, but if you manage to do it by shoving someone out of the way, chances are you can make up for that boost decrease by throwing their rhythm off. Specifically into the guardrail.

For me, it's always turned off.

i play with boost off with people that i have respect for. but if you trash talk even when your not playing then ill play boost on.

I like to play Boost On with pros and Boost Off with newbies. I don't like risky playing...

That kinda makes it sound like you're scared to lose?

Risks are what makes battles more enjoyable than a simple TA up and down the mountain. Pass him on the straight? Overspeed the corner? Steal the inside? Bump him out? Blind attack?

You can only learn once you lose.

I like boost on battles, regardless of opponent. From losing battles with boost on, it's safe to say that skill is more important than the battle boost, so it doesn't and shouldn't matter if it's on.

Plus, I don't like losing by 300m+.

you can say that again...

Actually Boost On in IDAS.5 is alot different that it's previous ID version, as I felt that boost On in ID.5 will only kick in when you still have your tyres boost left, I often had boost on battle yet I still can maintain my lead/distance if I manage my boost carefully in front.