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> IDAS5 Beginner's Guide, No clue as to what you're doing? Ask here!
DigiBunny
  Posted: Jul 10 2010, 10:20 PM


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SO YOU WANT TO LEARN, DO YOU?!
Mkay. Look around, see if we have what you need. If not, feel free to ask.

We played our hearts ( and wallets ) out so that you don't have to!
...As much.

Absolute beginner's guide to playing the game
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAjiJtwrc6Q )

Guide for Playing in the wet
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWfSOh5HJ00 )


Don't want to or cant watch the video? Here's the Summary.
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Getting Owned in battles by some stock car? This may be why.
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More in Depth guides Spoiler'd for length.
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okay so i think im getting it now b4 you come to turn corner like you shift down first then brake ? say for the first turn big turn in Akina you should shift down to 2 slowly as you approach it and then break?
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heeh~ nice vid with good general tips to start off people~

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love the music!
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  Posted: Jul 12 2010, 03:18 PM


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QUOTE (peachsnow @ 6 hours, 55 minutes ago)
okay so i think im getting it now b4 you come to turn corner like you shift down first then brake ? say for the first turn big turn in Akina you should shift down to 2 slowly as you approach it and then break?

Do it at the same time. You engine brake and you use the discs to slow down. I wont tell you where you should brake; because you can figure that out by yourself.

Just remember that as long as you are gliding through the turn WITHOUT going sideways, in 2nd gear, at around the same speed people in videos pull that off with, you're doing it right.
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Mann... That breaking is hard can you please explain it in detail like what i gotta do? i know you want us to think of our own way butt please just help? well build on from there i get how you said okay break down to 80 - 90 acceptable speed then to make it even more nice break like do i tap? again or like Hard break mid break?! what please and thank i love you (: no homo
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Posted: Jul 13 2010, 07:20 AM


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for starters... use the KISS.... Keep It Simple....

this is for general akina hairpins.. .other corners may vary...

-- start braking before the corner (or thereabouts.. judge yourself by speed and target speed)
-- continue braking while turning in
-- still brake while turning
-- exit with acceleration.

the lining you can see from the numerous videos out there.

if you have to force the wheel for the car to turn, you are too fast
if the car is not under your control at any time, you are overdoing it.

keep it smooth for starters... smooth and steady is the basic lesson. Nakazato R32 style.
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Posted: Jul 13 2010, 07:48 AM


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QUOTE (stormfox @ 27 minutes, 18 seconds ago)
for starters... use the KISS.... Keep It Simple....

this is for general akina hairpins.. .other corners may vary...

-- start braking before the corner (or thereabouts.. judge yourself by speed and target speed)
-- continue braking while turning in
-- still brake while turning
-- exit with acceleration.

the lining you can see from the numerous videos out there.

if you have to force the wheel for the car to turn, you are too fast
if the car is not under your control at any time, you are overdoing it.

keep it smooth for starters... smooth and steady is the basic lesson. Nakazato R32 style.

Err dun mind, I say about the -- still brake while turning?
Depend. I brake half of the curve, after that let go of brake den -- exit with acceleration
All the hairpin, I do that.
Correct mii if I doing it wrongly..
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Posted: Jul 13 2010, 07:20 PM


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well for akina corners most of them u need to hold on brake till u reached the 60s mark then only u can reaccel for both grip n drift techniques ...

to keep it simple as i have shown @Sadox last night with his FD3 when coming to corners u need to start braking early via the steering turned to catch a better lining n braking into the apex when the speed drops till 60+ while holding the brake i do some half gas pumping when i m still turning ...

once u r about to clear the corner u juz let go off your brakes n there u go with a faster reaccel speed smile.gif

hope this help some of your problems n good luck smile.gif
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Thank you i will try it Saturday
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@peachsnow lol im gonna try to break 3:20 on akina saturday haha. hope they fixed the left machine so it reads cards
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Posted: Jul 14 2010, 02:07 AM


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QUOTE (*j*j* @ 6 hours, 47 minutes ago)
well for akina corners most of them u need to hold on brake till u reached the 60s mark then only u can reaccel for both grip n drift techniques ...

to keep it simple as i have shown @Sadox last night with his FD3 when coming to corners u need to start braking early via the steering turned to catch a better lining n braking into the apex when the speed drops till 60+ while holding the brake i do some half gas pumping when i m still turning ...

once u r about to clear the corner u juz let go off your brakes n there u go with a faster reaccel speed smile.gif

hope this help some of your problems n good luck smile.gif

Haha but still all my curve at 70 plus.... Drift...
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hmm ok lets break down the akina corner speeds

1. 1st right corner of akina 60+
2. the quick left-right combo where u need to off gas n brake at the short right at 78/80
3. the next left will b at 60+
4. the right corner b4 cp1 at 125+/-
5. cp2 1st right corner 60+ n the next left corner at 60+
6. the butterfly curse 1st left off gas when u enter the gutter at 170/171 brake till 79/80
7. RHOD at 60+
8. 3 lane turn at 60+
9. 5 cons hairpins > 1st at 60+, 2nd at 70+, 3rd at 70+, 4th 60+ n last at 70+
10. the left corner b4 fireworks at 80+
11. fireworks right corner at 70+

drift techniques required the weight management of the car to be balance/lighten (via countersteer) when u reaccel with a heavy steering then u r penalised ... dry.gif

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QUOTE (justxsongs @ Yesterday, 11:48 PM)
Err dun mind, I say about the -- still brake while turning?
Depend. I brake half of the curve, after that let go of brake den -- exit with acceleration
All the hairpin, I do that.
Correct mii if I doing it wrongly..

yep correct.

the point is to not to release brake too early and coast through the corner.
for starters that is.

once get more familiar can start to tweak the exit accel point.
most corners are half to 3/4 of the curve is under braking.

just keeping it simple for Starters... they can go experiment the rest of the stuff... laugh.gif
thats where the fun is

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more lining guides pls! very good stuff the lining guide, must easier to understand as compared to watching ta videos.

anyway i wanna ask the different methods between driving in dry vs wet conditions. do we have to brake more in wet courses as compare to dry courses. cant seem to get good timings on wet courses so wanna find out more abt the wet courses physics.

thanks
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wow , i don't think this is being a beginners guide anymore... its getting more and more advanced.... very good job doing this , appreciate it a lot... happy.gif
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  Posted: Jul 15 2010, 05:42 AM


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QUOTE (hellfire88 @ 4 hours, 38 minutes ago)
more lining guides pls! very good stuff the lining guide, must easier to understand as compared to watching ta videos.

anyway i wanna ask the different methods between driving in dry vs wet conditions. do we have to brake more in wet courses as compare to dry courses. cant seem to get good timings on wet courses so wanna find out more abt the wet courses physics.

thanks

Yeah. If you went in with the same speeds in wet that you push in Dry, you'd probably understeer like a female dog. You have to slow down a bit more to clear the corner tightly.

But wet isn't my cup of tea. Brian does it pretty well though; so if he wants, we could record him doing a wet course and explaining it.
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Posted: Jul 15 2010, 10:00 AM


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^ just the man i need! now if only there would be a chance of us crossing paths again @ G4, then i would indeed make you the cameraman... XD

actually, i already have an explanation in mind, so what i'll do is i'll send you a PM either here or on facebook... and it's up to you where you want to place those explanations when you edit the video...

well, i can't really say i'm great in the wet, it's just that i have more patience than most players to deal with wet maps...
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QUOTE (brian_infinispirit @ 5 hours, 37 minutes ago)
^ just the man i need! now if only there would be a chance of us crossing paths again @ G4, then i would indeed make you the cameraman... XD

actually, i already have an explanation in mind, so what i'll do is i'll send you a PM either here or on facebook... and it's up to you where you want to place those explanations when you edit the video...

well, i can't really say i'm great in the wet, it's just that i have more patience than most players to deal with wet maps...

Hey, I'm not the one running around hunting down every top spot for the maps.

Probably gonna be better if you did it; The RS is more used than my '8 anyway, so handling and whatnot should be more familiar to the users.
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Guys i just noticed. something Crazy i was on a sorta tuned not really actually just 7 2 2 0 0 and against stock cars im losing ? wth! i was driving an S2000 Then crazy thing i went on with a stock car a different car Uhm an Evolution i won am i tripping. or does S2000s are bad?
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is depends on your skills in ID5, all cars are the same except some are course car
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lining is very impt for boost.
Sometimes I miss some corner line.
But normal lining helps alot.
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QUOTE (peachsnow @ 6 hours, 58 minutes ago)
Guys i just noticed. something Crazy i was on a sorta tuned not really actually just 7 2 2 0 0 and against stock cars im losing ? wth! i was driving an S2000 Then crazy thing i went on with a stock car a different car Uhm an Evolution i won am i tripping. or does S2000s are bad?

Just because your engine's top speed tuning is maxed out doesn't mean you're going to win by sheer power. We're not on a highway where it's a horsepower game.
You're tripping, my good man. Odds are, you're being out-braked, out-accelerated, he has better lining than you, or a combination of any of the three. ID is not about how much money you spent on the car. It's more on how much you spent on learning the game itself.

Were you playing Boost on or Boost off? If it was On, then well, hey, anything goes.
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DigiBunny , will there be a guide for nagao? hope there will so that we all can learn to attack the gutters than falling into it... laugh.gif
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Nah it was Boost Off and Lining maybe its there but it doesn't make sense i switched cars and beat him on the maps i lost on
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QUOTE (ishida @ Today, 4:35 AM)
DigiBunny , will there be a guide for nagao? hope there will so that we all can learn to attack the gutters than falling into it... laugh.gif

Yes there will!

Granted, I'm not very good at Nagao, but I dont fall into gutters, so yeah. I'll see about uploading it today.

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