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Apparently it's referred to as a REsuperG or something.

You say that Tsukuba is pretty wide and has wide corners. It also consist mostly of low and mid speed corners and has no real straightways.

I'm just wondering...if tsukuba is actually wide...why does everyone say in the anime that it is impossible to pass someone on that course??

Also, how come it's called "F-Line" in the wiki article?




Personally, I've always had the impression that it was a pretty tight course. that's why I got pretty confused when I saw the Tsukuba course on IDAS4.

1.) Perhaps you're confusing it with Shomaru...? It didn't look like there were any smaller-than-two-lane sections. Passing seems more than possible there.

2.) IT'S A WIKI. Do the math.

umm...no. Keisuke and some other guy said it themselves that it was impossible to pass someone on that course...

...which is why I started wondering about that ever since I saw the course map on IDAS4. (the one on IDAS4 IS the actual course they raced on in the anime right?)

BTW...when I did a closer inspection on the scene where the 86 and the S2000 were side-by-side on a corner, it looked as if the course width is probably similar to the width of the two-lane sections of akina. Maybe even abit more. Kinda weird since the one on IDAS4 looks a hell of alot wider than that.

oh.....right.....>_>

Nice stuff are hard to find these days
FD's, S15's,

If that was true then how is it that people got passed on the course? I am not entirely sure if the Initial D Arcade Stage is totally accurate, cause in most cases the maps are much shorter than the real life locations.

That's why I'm asking why on earth would they say something like that if the course is actually that wide. It just doesn't make sense to me. >_>

In what episode was it said and at what time?

Would everyone agree that Bunta would be the last opponent Takumi would battle or would want to battle near the end of Initial D?

Seconded. I never heard about an inability to pass. Takumi passes God Hand twice, God Hand passes Takumi twice... Keisuke and God Foot each swap places once...

Watch the Anime. The sections on Tsukuba don't look narrow at all. I'd love to know where it's said that you "can't pass there."

RacerPaul: Actually, probably not. The more I think about it, the more I think he'd be the second-to-last, with Keisuke being the last. Something like that. But that's all speculation at this point, as Shigeno hasn't really told us what's going to happen.

N1, I actually think that order would be swapped. As pathetic as it may sound, having the final race be between Bunta and Takumi would be more epic, especially since it would be a race to test the pinnacles of what Bunta is training Takumi for and his Project D training. It's kind of like how they re-arranged the last race of First Stage to be the race against Ryosuke, to have the serious end of such an emotional note.

Recipe for Bunta's Fried Tofu and/or ganmodoki? Come on, someone has to know how to prepare his fried tofu.

How about stats on his Impreza ?

Also, your gonna need vol. 32 for my question

In chp. 428, Some girl catch's Takumi at the Gas Station, and eventually slaps him, she also starts dating Takumi ?, and plays golf ? (or is that someone else ?)

Who is that/are they if its 2 girls, i don't think its Mogi, or is it ?

thats from when there were project d imposters. basically takumis imposter messed around with some girl - mika - and hurt her somehow. then mikas friend(?) found takumi at the gas station and slapped him in mikas defense. eventually mika found out that that doode was the imposter and apologized to takumi for her friend slapping him. also mika happens to be a star golf player or something and her and takumi start eyeing eachother....
i believe this is how it goes, i got this mainly from the info posted in the spoilers thread... take a look there...

This post has been edited by pnoytecknix on Apr 17 2007, 04:53 PM

Why would you think that? If you think about it Bunta is Takumi's hardest opponent and it be fitting that before the manga ends, whenever that is, they would battle each other. I think that once Project D has reached its goal, which is to defeat every team in Japan I believe, that Takumi would be challenged by Keisuke and probably win. Afterwards challenge Bunta his hardest opponent on Mt. Akina. Since Bunta is official the fastest downhiller on Mt. Akina not Takumi. It would be a great end to Initial D and I think Bunta would win even after all the experience Takumi has acquired after Project D.

I think that because of the way the Anime seems to point. They keep making Bunta fade into the background, relatively, and keep making the Keisuke rivalry come into the light. It just seems to me that, while yes, Bunta is a god who Takumi must overcome... beating Keisuke would be a bit more important.

But hey, that's me. Just speculation.

Does anyone here think that Takumi or Keisuke will ever lose? Didn't Ryosuke say that Project D was to defeat every team in Japan meaning if they lose Project D would over and so would Initial D? So I'm assuming that Shuuichi Shigeno is going to have Takumi and Keisuke win all their races. I hope this doesn't happen because it is getting less interesting especially seeing Takumi always winning or teasing us when Takumi clearly lost in a few battles, but something miraculous happens and wins. I was pissed when God Arm lost especially the way he lost or how Tomo lost.

This post has been edited by RacerPaul on Apr 17 2007, 07:41 PM

God I hope something good actually happens between Takumi and Mika. She's one heck of a looker, and she's actually smart in comparison to the whor- Natsuki.

EP21 (Although this one is probably talking about either that certain section or the course entirely)


EP22 (I made this one a sequence to avoid any misunderstanding)



Ok....maybe they're not saying that it's "totally impossible to pass" but you get the idea.

Anyways, just to repeat my question about this again:

Why would they say such things even though they are fully aware that it's that wide of a course?

Ahh, now I see what they mean. That's a little easier to explain, then.

First off, I provide this evidence:



What they mean is, both vehicles are not only wide, but are heavy. On the hill climb, you have to get going significantly faster than your opponent to pass him. This is pretty easy to demonstrate--ever been on an uphill section of a highway and tried to pass a slower car ahead of you? Even at full throttle it takes some time before you have enough speed to pass by. Whereas if it were slightly downhill, you could easily zip on by.

"You can't pass me here" simply refers to Keisuke's resolve. He's determined not to let his opponent pass him on the outside of a corner. Earlier, he comments that "all [he] has to do is not let him pass." This is an extension of that comment.

As for the latter comment, I have to sadly admit that L-E got the translation slightly off. In Japanese, it's "Ikura Joushima-san demo sore wa muri desu yo! Konna chokusen no nai koona darake no koosu de... ooinuki nante..."

Which translates to, "Even if it's Joushima-san [driving], that's impossible! On a course like this that's all corners without any straights... [to pass] while behind..."

Now, note that they make no mention of the width of the course. They just mention that there aren't any straights. Why do I point this out? Because in case you haven't noticed, most of the n00bs in Initial D say that the only place to pass someone is on a straight. Which, as we all know, is not true. It's hard to pass when there are only corners, but certainly not impossible. Especially not for two of the best drivers in the series.

And that is why. These are n00bs talking. They think you need a straightaway to pass. Tsukuba is wide, wide enough for the RX-7 and the R34 to go side-by-side without feeling pressured. It simply is filled with corners.

Does anyone feel that Shuuichi Shigeno has some type of bias against racers who drive grip and then overexaggerate drifting because it is well known that drifting isn't a great racing style and mainly just for show, but Takumi on the otherhand can somehow keep up with Nakazato's R32 and keep up with Kyoichi's Evo III using drifting. If you compare drifting to grip in the real world, grip is faster and efficient then drifting since you burn your tires out much quickly drifting since your purposely inducing oversteer.

Drift is the best way to burn your tires. One lesson of project D is how keep grip by managing the throttle. So it's clear that drift it's the best way to use tires. The fact is that Takumi made lot drift when he could make his gutters technics. Without gutters and with tires used, he couldn't win easly.
Grip is fastest than drift no doubt about this.

This post has been edited by fuji_tak on Apr 18 2007, 08:33 AM

If that is indeed the case then how is Takumi able to keep up with Kyoichi or even Nakazato for that matter? Both of them are driving grip yet Takumi is able to keep up with the much slower drift style and top that off with the fact that the Evo III and R32 are much faster then the 86 especially in horsepower. This is why I suggested that the author, Shuuichi Shigeno, over exaggerates drifting making it seem like it is just as fast as grip. This is apparent in the Nakazato and Kyoichi battles. I believe the Drift King himself said "I drift not because it is a quicker way around a corner, but it is the most exciting way."

This post has been edited by RacerPaul on Apr 18 2007, 10:56 AM

The part about the uphill, I fully understand and totally agree with you. I'm not entirely sure about what you said about the downhill though.

Just to clear a few things up first:
Even though I try to counter it sometimes, I've already accepted the probability of Tsukuba being wide as true (only as a probability though). That's why I made this question in the first place.

I DO agree that noobs in initial D always mention pretty stupid stuff like that and passing only on straights is one of them. But when I thought up of my question, I also kept in mind that that guy is from Purple Shadow that is on par with Todou School, which means that he is also expected to be semi-pro in skill. If even an amateur like me could easily easy that it's not really that hard to pass someone on a course that wide even though there aren't really any straights, it's pretty obvious that a semi-pro would think the same thing. That's why I felt like I'm missing something when he said that passing on that course is hard.

If he really is just a noob and it's all just Noobtalk, then I can accept that. But if the situation is like the one i mentioned earlier (him not being just your typical noob), I think that maybe there's another reason why he said that it's difficult to pass there.

Anyways, I nevertheless consider my question answered. Thanks for all the info, especially about the Uphill.

Ah, sorry. I'll clear a few things up.

I only made the mention of downhill to make a point. Say you're on the highway and you go over a hill. You get over the crest of the hill and the guy ahead of you in his Honda puts on his brakes, slowing down to 55 in a 65 zone. You're both going downhill. You mash the gas to pass him. The time it takes you to accelerate up to passing speed and get by is much less than if you had attempted to pass the guy while going up the hill. Right?

You are also right about the Purple Shadow guys. God Foot and God Hand seem to think that they're all incredibly skilled. They have the looks and sounds of n00bs, but my guess is they could beat many of the Initial D regulars. So why would they say that you can't pass in the corners? Maybe because anyone in their right mind would take the inside line on each corner. If the inside line is blocked, the chances of the person behind getting up to passing speed from the outside are pretty slim. On the other hand, there are plenty of tricks (read: gutters and patches of land on inside of turns) in Tsukuba to allow the chaser to access a second inside line.

Perhaps they didn't know about those maneuvers?