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Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 11 2007, 11:04 AM
Mad FinnTuners Co.'s
R32 GT-R Evo 1.

http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0003oo9.jpg



Designed for fast, advanced drivers that have the need to feel the G-Forces, MFT's R32 GT-R Evo 1 is the perfect trackday weapon. Using the best possible parts and hours of patient finetuning, it delivered sub 1'4x.xxx time on Motegi road course, putting it on par with Amuse S2000 GT-1.

Specs:

R32 GT-R V-Spec II '94, 6.2 miler.
509bhp, 581nm of torque
1245kg

sports exhaust, racing computer, turbine kit stage 2, racing brakes, brake balance controller, racing suspension, FC gearbox, triple plate clutch, racing flywheel, carbon propeller shaft, adjustable wing, weight reduction stage 3, oil change, R3 tyres

SR: 6.0/9.0
RH: 110/120
DBS: 1/6
DBRS: 8/8
camber: 4.0/3.0
toe: 0/3
Stab 5/2

DF: 30/15
BBC: 3/3

weight balance 50 rear.

gearbox: set as you wish

tester's comments are welcome.

Posted by: Kurei Feb 11 2007, 12:49 PM
Interesting, i'll have to give your R32 try, definatly got my attention laugh.gif

besides, im a 4WD specialist, like i wouldn't want to try it wink2.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 11 2007, 12:59 PM
laugh.gif I thought that this could get your attention. the setup might look wacky, and it might not work so well if you don't have DFP or G25, but, by all means, give it a try.

Posted by: WRX Feb 11 2007, 02:13 PM
Imma give it a go smile.gif and see how it performs.

EDIT:

Review:
I like how the car corners and the braking. It turns real good for it's weight, but because of the tires, it performs this good. I didn't really like how the tire's responsed, maybe because it doesn't have an LSD. I also didn't like how you have to decelerate in small turns, but it's a good highspeed cornering car. rolleyes.gif

I rate it 6/10 smile.gif

Posted by: Kurei Feb 11 2007, 04:02 PM
To quote BlitzSupra quoting Clarkson from Top Gear,
"Then there's the interior, ordinarily in a Japanese car you look on the dashboard and think... Oh Dear. But on this you think, Ma W0rd! (D1s c4r 15 1yk3 0wnag3)"

This is a excellent GT-R, the brakes are superb, it accels like a mutha', and turns on a dime with correct entry, the wing must play a huge part in its griping ability, along with the racing tires, and your right, the setup does seem a little wacky at first, but it gets results, barely 2 secs off Keiichi's Tsu record with that red NSX

Im guessing you didn't include the LSD since rumor has it that eliminates any feeling of the Attesa system in GT4

But still, its like the thing rides on rails, a great GT-R, 9/10

Posted by: WRX Feb 11 2007, 05:54 PM
I really loved the brakes smile.gif but still it didn't really amused me. Just a suggestion, you should try and tune an FR smile.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 11 2007, 09:30 PM
thanks for the feedback. this setup doesn't suit all, but obviously Kurei's drivingstyle is close to mine. and WRX, when saying that this setup doesn't amuse you, you mean that there's lack of powerslides, eh?
Kurei, it isn't only rumour. I've tried it out myself..

oh, I do have FR's, plenty of them actually. I'll put one up when I get back from work. maybe then WRX will have a chance to satisfy his lust for powerslides. shifty2.gif

Edit:


Say hello to the first fun-to-drive car in the world!

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"guess who taught everything to God Hand?" shifty2.gif cool.gif


Lotus Elan MFT '62

Power: 210bhp
Torque: 263nm

Racing exhaust, racing computer, S1 tyres, turbo stage 2, racing brakes, brake controller, racing suspension, FC gearbox, triple plate clutch, racing flywheel, carbon propeller shaft, weight reduction stg3, port polish, engine balancing, oil change, 1-way LSD

SR: 2.5/5.0
RH: 90/95
DBS: 4/4
DBRS: 8/8
Camber: 3.0/2.0
Toe: 0/3
Stab: 3/5

BBC: 5/3

AIDS: I always say no to aids. I always use proper rubber to prevent accidents.

transmission: set as you wish

This car beats S2000's stock. Imagine what it can do now when it's tuned! this setup is suitable for grip and drift, but if you really weant to enjoy about long, easily controlled drifts, N-class tyres are recommended. I can easily imagine that God Hands father drives this car.

Posted by: Kurei Feb 12 2007, 01:41 PM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 12:30 AM)
Kurei, it isn't only rumour. I've tried it out myself...

Well i learned the effects of LSD on my Subaru the hard way, and believe it or not, i haven't owned many GT-R's to play with, i've always been more of a WRX/EVO kinda guy, besides the R32 i have now, i've only owned 3 GT-R's, the Mines, a stock non V-spec one, and the one with the Carbon hood, but i've sold them as of now, but i can see how aftermarket (etc) would affect it.

You say our driving styles are similar, just out of curiosity, what is your style ? whistling.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 12 2007, 01:48 PM
well, it depends of track, but on motegi for example, which is mostly straight, it's "Floor it, BRAKE! out-in-(floor it again)out, all the way to last revs on 6th gear, BRAKE! out-in(accelerate).. you get the picture. laugh.gif if the track is frantic, your driving has to be frantic in order to get the best out of it.

I also have many 22B:s, because Imprezas are drivers car. Evo's are computer controlled cars.. I don't like it when the electronics slap my head and say " you can't do that, it's dangerous etc".. bit like having your mom on the next seat. there's no better rev/speed limiter than that laugh2.gif

Posted by: Kurei Feb 12 2007, 01:54 PM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 4:48 PM)
Imprezas are drivers car. Evo's are computer controlled cars.. I don't like it when the electronics slap my head and say " you can't do that, it's dangerous etc".. bit like having your mom on the next seat. there's no better rev/speed limiter than that laugh2.gif

Yea, i know how you feel, why do you think i switched ?, lol

Computers can help, but more often they limit the full capability

Ah crap, i want to bring up more topics but im outta time, i might be back later

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 13 2007, 06:22 AM
sure. and please, try out that Elan. it can almost keep up with AC Cobra on curvy tracks.

Posted by: Kurei Feb 13 2007, 12:48 PM
I'll test the Elan tonight, i finally have a little free time, school's been murder

Got any other cars of interesting characteristics ?, i've been bored with GT4 lately and need something to peak my interests again sweatingbullets.gif

Posted by: WRX Feb 13 2007, 01:11 PM
LoL im so sorry man, but i'm just saying what I think about the car, plus it's not all about the powerslides lol. Where can I get that car?

Posted by: Kurei Feb 13 2007, 05:39 PM
You gotta win it in one of the Lotus events, but you need to win another car to enter that one to get the Elan, i thought you could just buy it, boy was i wrong blink.gif

Anyways the Elan is pretty fun on corner exit, i can see how Fin-toy says Godhand's father drove something like this, doesn't look like much at first but it can be quite fun when you punch it on the exit, like a mini 4 wheel grip-drift

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 14 2007, 11:26 AM
I'm glad that you liked it. next will probably be something mid-engined and fast. i'm not sure if i want to go to stage 3, because then it would need R-class tyres.. anyways, it already handles like a champ on S3's and without wing. but I'm not quite sure which of these mid-engined handling monsters I should reveal.. shifty2.gif

Posted by: Kurei Feb 14 2007, 05:33 PM
An MR eh ?, dont have much history with them, oh well

I dont have much of my own, i rarely delicatly tune anything that i don't use often, only thing i can think of of the top of my head is my Impreza, but i ain't sharing that, things gold on Capri grin2.gif

If i find anything in my garage worth posting, i'll post it probably tomorrow

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 16 2007, 10:47 PM
well, Kurei? I'm still waiting.. unsure.gif

Posted by: Kurei Feb 17 2007, 06:19 AM
Sorry for the wait, school and life have been kicking me in the you know what again...

But its worth it, im in the process of building a JGTC Evo Concept that can kick it with the GT500 cars, just gotta finalize it some more, expect it monday at the latest. happy.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 18 2007, 07:45 AM
sweet. keep it up. happy.gif

Posted by: Kurei Feb 18 2007, 02:11 PM
Here it is, early, but you probably won't mind laugh.gif

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Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR '03 - Black with Rays "024" rims And Spoiler Number "3D Type DB"

Part/Mod list:
Oil change
Racing exhaust
Sports Chip
R3 Tires
Turbo stg. 2
Sports Intercooler
Racing Brakes
Brake Controller
Race suspension
Full cust. Tranny
Triple Plate clutch
Racing Flywheel
Carbon Driveshaft
AYC & VCD

Rated at 504 HP on the dyno, may be more, may be less, results may vary [/Cheesiness] grin2.gif

Settings:
BBC: 9/5
Spring Rate: 9.0/10.7
Ride height: 94/96
Shock Bound: 4/5 l Rebound: 5/6
Camber: 3.6/1.8
Toe: -1/0
Stab's: 5/5
Transmission - Auto 6
AYC: 105 l VCD: 35

Purpose built for Tsukuba, A little squirly if handled incorrectly, Beats your R32 there when i drive it there, Fin-toy shifty2.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 18 2007, 02:23 PM
only because it's lighter. tongue.gif
I'll try it out tomorrow after work.

Posted by: Kurei Feb 18 2007, 02:27 PM
mehbeh whistling.gif

But i will warn you though, if you get a little carried away with driving it, it will go sqiurely on you and prolly slide way off the apex

Posted by: SKYLINE_32 Feb 18 2007, 07:39 PM
Since you all seem like the guys to go to for advice on 4wds. In the Group A Rally comp I'm entered in, during hairpin slides the power sometimes (only sometimes) just completeley cuts out. It's like it stalls and it takes around 2 seconds to get back on its feet. Its the Mitsubishi Evolution VIII MR GSR '04. If you guys need a list of what I have installed etc, just say.

Any help or advice is great.
Early thanks =)

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 18 2007, 09:14 PM
that actually happens on any car if the revs drop too low. you fall out of the powerband and the engine "stalls". all you need to do is drop on a smaller gear.

Posted by: WRX Feb 18 2007, 10:17 PM
Anyone here drifts with the DFP?

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 19 2007, 01:30 AM
I did. though, now I use G25. cool.gif wink2.gif it's more precise tool for that purpose. I'll post my MR setup today as well.

Posted by: Kurei Feb 19 2007, 06:40 AM
So how'd the test go, or have you not done it yet ?

And @ SKYLINE_32, best thing to do is learn how to 'work' the gears, if the revs drop too low, downshift and stay there until you start bumping the rev limiter, then shift back up, or if you shift down and imediatly hit the limiter, try introducing a form of Eraser to it to get those revs a little higher

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 19 2007, 08:07 AM
QUOTE (Kurei @ Today at 6:40 AM)
So how'd the test go, or have you not done it yet ?

AYC and R3's were the only thing that kept the car on the road. also, the setup info was incomplete, for example, I needed racing intercooler and engine balancing. also, I didn't do any weight reductions, and no downforce either since it wasn't mentioned. I took the aids off, because they always slow me down.

it is fast indeed, hitting 0'56, but 0'55 or lower are possible with some adjustments. the car was indeed squirming like eel in corners, mainly because of AYC, and even that didn't hide the tendency of understeering (caused by bit too stiff suspension, obvious when going over rumble strips. it also shuddered in corners.) all the time. due the nervous behaviour, the driving was not so relaxed and I couldn't concentrate on the lines because I tried to keep the car on the track. I'd say that this is 7+, 7½/10 car. some more time with finetuning will help this car to achieve it's true potential.

I'll update my MR rocket in this post after getting some pics of it.

Toyota MR2 1600 G-Limited SC'86 by MFT (6.2 miler)

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weight: 1005 kg
hp: 165bhp
torque: 213nm

modifications: weight reduction stage 1, port polish, engine balancing, racing computer chip, racing brakes, brake balance controller, sports soft tyres, racing suspension, triple plate clutch, racing flywheel, 1-way LSD

BBC: 5/3

SR: 3.5/5.0
RH: 105/110
DBS: 4/6
DBRS: 6/8
camber: 2.5/2.0
toe: 0/3
Stab: 2/5

No flashy wing, no NOS, no race spec slicks.. This car is a sleeping beauty. It could handle even more power, but that would compromise the corner exit speed. both grip and drift are easily done with this setup. enjoy, and please, test and comment.

Posted by: lotteman Feb 19 2007, 11:06 AM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 8:07 AM)
AYC and R3's were the only thing that kept the car on the road. also, the setup info was incomplete, for example, I needed racing intercooler and engine balancing. also, I didn't do any weight reductions, and no downforce either since it wasn't mentioned. I took the aids off, because they always slow me down.

it is fast indeed, hitting 0'56, but 0'55 or lower are possible with some adjustments. the car was indeed squirming like eel in corners, mainly because of AYC, and even that didn't hide the tendency of understeering (caused by bit too stiff suspension, obvious when going over rumble strips. it also shuddered in corners.) all the time. due the nervous behaviour, the driving was not so relaxed and I couldn't concentrate on the lines because I tried to keep the car on the track. I'd say that this is 7+, 7½/10 car. some more time with finetuning will help this car to achieve it's true potential.

I'll update my MR rocket in this post after getting some pics of it.

Toyota MR2 1600 G-Limited SC'86 by MFT (6.2 miler)

http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0004xi1.jpghttp://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0000sj4.jpg


weight: 1005 kg
hp: 165bhp
torque: 213nm

modifications: weight reduction stage 1, port polish, engine balancing, racing computer chip, racing brakes, brake balance controller, sports soft tyres, racing suspension, triple plate clutch, racing flywheel, 1-way LSD

BBC: 5/3

SR: 3.5/5.0
RH: 105/110
DBS: 4/6
DBRS: 6/8
camber: 2.5/2.0
toe: 0/3
Stab: 2/5

No flashy wing, no NOS, no race spec slicks.. This car is a sleeping beauty. It could handle even more power, but that would compromise the corner exit speed. both grip and drift are easily done with this setup. enjoy, and please, test and comment.

really? i ran consistant 54s with the evo. btw im loving the brakes

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 19 2007, 11:48 AM
did you have full weight reductions and downforce? that could explain..

Posted by: Kurei Feb 19 2007, 11:51 AM
Dang it !, i knew i forgot something, i'll update everything as soon as i finish doing some work on it, look for it in this post sometime today, sorry for forgeting stuff pinch2.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 19 2007, 12:38 PM
it's alright. if you think that I was bit unforgiving now, imagine what I would had said if i would had left the aids on.. whistling.gif

"this censored2.gif censored2.gif piece of censored2.gif doesn't want to make a single censored2.gif ing turn for censored2.gif s sake!"

I'd say that you were lucky laugh2.gif

Posted by: lotteman Feb 19 2007, 01:28 PM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 11:48 AM)
did you have full weight reductions and downforce? that could explain..

i ran a 54 without weight reduction but I did have downforce.

I tested both cars at el capitan. Both cars were very quick although I still need some more time to get used to the GT-R.

El capitan race circuit normal.
Kurei's EVO JGTC Proto- 1'37.xxx
Fin toy's GT-R R32- 1' 40.xxx

Posted by: Kurei Feb 19 2007, 02:29 PM
Ok lets try this again shall we ? laugh.gif

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Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR '03 - Black with Rays "024" rims And Spoiler Number "3D Type DB"

504HP rated on dyno (setup menu)
Current Tsukuba record: 0'52.591

Part list: Racing exhaust, Race brakes & controller, Port polish, Engine Balance, Racing Chip, Full cust. Tranny, Triple Plate clutch, Racing Flywheel, Full LSD, Carbon driveshaft, Stg.2 Turbo, Sports intercooler, Full Cust. (Racing) Suspension, R3 tires, Full weight reduction

Settings: NO AIDS
Brake balance controller: 5/5
Spring rate: 7.8/8.1
Ride height: 100/100
Shock Bound: 3/4
Shock Rebound: 4/5
Camber: 3.6/1.8
Toe: -1/0
Stab's: 4/4
Transmission: Auto 6
Downforce: 30/25
LSD: F - 10/20/20 l R - default

Once again purpose-built for Tsukuba, adapt the Tranny for different courses, dont be too hard on it or its potential won't shine, be gentle, yet demanding wink2.gif

Hope i got everything this time, i got to get off for now, i'll test your MR Fin in the meantime

Posted by: stidriver Feb 19 2007, 08:48 PM
Kurei I gave your EVO and set-up a run at Tsukuba and ran a 51.840. It's tail happy under braking and pushes on the way out of turns. I made the changes below and ran a 51.167. It can drop some more time with them too. Give them a try I think you like them.

Brake Control 5/5
Ride Height 100/100
Wing 30/25
Front Diff 10/20/20

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 19 2007, 09:23 PM
now it worked better. The car was calmer to drive, but cutting the corners still caused loss of traction. abyways, I got all the way down to 0'53.7, which is satisfying achievement.

but doesn't AYC and LSD cancel eachothers out? atleast they can not be active at the same time..?

and I have probably the reason why my beloved 'R' is slower: it has less torque (580 versus 630), and it's bit heavier (about 50 kg). and that setup was made for fast tracks, not for Tsukuba.. maybe later today I have tome to create a setup for Tsukuba. Or Then I'll pull out MFT's secret trackday weapon, the ultimate R32..

Posted by: stidriver Feb 20 2007, 06:52 AM
FinToy-83 I only played around a little with the setting. I was tring not to change to many things. First the braking then the exit push and maxed the wings but leaving the same gap front to back.

With AYC you can only change the front diff as the rear is used by the AYC and will change with your front diff setting.

I have ran a 45.4xx with a full tuned(stage 4 and R5's) R34 VspecII Nur at Tsukuba with TSM set at 1. Some day need to put the org turbo on it and see how it runs.

Posted by: outlaw-2 Feb 20 2007, 06:57 AM
Man... at this rate, I may actually try making my variation as well... >_< Can I try it as well? I may want some comments about my set-ups...

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 20 2007, 07:51 AM
sure, go ahead. I'm just trying to max-out my VSII at GVS. in-team challenge, you see. we, underdogs, drive 509/510bhp R32's, and the rest of team uses lower powered R33's and R34's because they have torque advantage. then again, we have weight advantage. this far, we're in the lead.. cool.gif

Posted by: outlaw-2 Feb 20 2007, 08:03 AM
EDIT:

Here goes..

BMW M3 CSL by Outlaw-2

Race version... 492BHP
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Tsukuba Circuit time: 0'53'229

Modifications...
-Triple Plate Clutch
-Sports flywheel
-Full customise lsd
-full customise suspension
-full customise transmission
-carbon driveshaft
-racing brakes
-racing brake controller
-R3 tyres
-ALL Weight reduction
-NA stage 3
-Sports ECU
-Engine balancing
-port and polish
-racing muffler
-3D Type DB rear spoiler...
-oil change

Settings...
Suspension: 14.4/12.6
Ride Height: 84/84
Shocks (BOTH) : 8/8
Camber angle: default
Toe: default
Stabiliser: 5/5

Brakes: 7/6

LSD: 10/50/5

Transmission: Final Gear: 3.620, Auto set to 16

downforce: 15/18
NO AIDS USED

Nurburgring version... 492BHP
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Tsukuba Circuit time: 0'53'687

Modifications: Same as above

Settings...
Suspension: 9.0/7.6
Ride Height: 85/85
Shocks (BOTH) : 5/5
Camber angle: default
Toe: default
Stabiliser: 4/4

Brakes: 4/4

LSD: 10/40/20

Transmission: Final gear: 3.620, Auto set to 17

downforce: 15/20

Aids: 11/12/7

When running at Nurburgring for the nurburgring version, do use R1tyres...

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 20 2007, 10:13 AM
nice. I'll see if i can find time to test it. but there's one thing I can tell already: that car is too low for Nurb..

Posted by: Kurei Feb 20 2007, 01:29 PM
I'll test your adaption to my evo when i get off the comp later stidriver

Meanwhile, i tested your MR Fin-toy, and i gotta say, i wouldn't mind owning it irl, its a great daily driver / track day fun car. i took it Autumn ring and it performed well, definatly a keeper for a day where you just want to relax

Maybe i'll test your bee'mer also Outlaw

Posted by: outlaw-2 Feb 20 2007, 04:56 PM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 10:13 AM)
nice. I'll see if i can find time to test it. but there's one thing I can tell already: that car is too low for Nurb..

Well, the average time around the Nurburgring in a race averages about 7'10'xxx to 7'20'xxx. I had to compromise some of the suspension , else, I'll be bouncing all over the bumps and uneven surfaces... Maybe I'll try doing a 'comfort' car.

Posted by: Kurei Feb 20 2007, 06:17 PM
I tested the 'Race' version at Tsu and got a 0'52.xxx, so its not bad, but it could be much better

You need to tweak the Suspension to pull out the full potential of it in the corners, and also changing your Downforce to different levels would bring it up a few notch's too, i don't know much about BMW's and tuning them so your on your own there, but just some advice, If it can be adjusted, try adjusting it, don't always leave it at default, unless it works for you there.

Anyway im currently thinking about trying a new addition, but i can't decide which car to do, some idea's i have are the Brembo Evo 5 (or 6, not sure), the Nismo R32, a 3000GT, or some type of FF

*Added EDIT* i tried your variation of my evo stidriver, and the changes did make it calmer, and it runs smoother, i'll update my setup post, thanks happy.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 20 2007, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (Kurei @ Today at 1:29 PM)
Meanwhile, i tested your MR Fin-toy, and i gotta say, i wouldn't mind owning it irl, its a great daily driver / track day fun car. i took it Autumn ring and it performed well, definatly a keeper for a day where you just want to re-act

and after posting that setup, I did evo model with 225bhp, no other changes.it still corners and turns like a champ, and brakes work just fine. this is the reason why I like MR's. They're so well balanced in most situations. but if you're driving it like a moron, it'll either understeer to kittylitter or snap back and bite your butt off. with downforce, full modifications and R1's it's able to beat tuner challenge in professional events. with mere 240bhp it might not shine on straights, but in the corners it leaves others bite its dust.

and I suggest doing 3000GT. Nismo R32 is notorious for it's racecar like stiffness and stubborn understeer. besides, the lack of torque and high-revving nature of the engine make it difficult to drive. and still, my friend clocked 1'47.xxx around GVS with it. blink.gif

Posted by: stidriver Feb 21 2007, 05:03 PM
FinToy-83 Ran your MR2 nice setup. The car has a little suspension chatter at the limit. I played around a little with the suspension to remove it and did. But my change slow the car down some. I may play with it some more later.

Posted by: Kurei Feb 21 2007, 06:39 PM
Well its seems that i've lost motivation to tune anything new, no clue why, i was looking around and found the Audi Le mans Quattro, and i thought that would make a bad*ss German TA car, but it turns out to be quite the opposite, heh...

Then i thought "why not try a light-weight low-power car like that MR?", so...

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I decided to try the Cap as i have never tried it before, and its a fun little car to get crazy with, but nothing special, so that sorta put its own flame out

Then i just went to Autumn ring with my Impreza just to cruise, tinker'd a little, and what do you know, i find myself in the middle of a break-through with it, so now im preoccupied with it, so idk when i'll put out another tuner

But whenever i do it might be a FF, im looking for something interesting to tune, not just another High-profile, already done sports car

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 21 2007, 09:17 PM
if a hint is allowed, try Lupo GTi. that car is hard to beat stock vs stock, even with 6.2 mile Civic VTi that has 177bhp vs Lupo's 125ish.. and if you like bigger displacements, Fiat Punto Abarth won't let you down.

Posted by: Di3S3L Feb 22 2007, 03:44 AM
Ohoho! what's this?

I might want to try out that evo setup as I have recently been trying to get my evo to corner faster. I might also post my Lancer EX 1800 for fun, just because it's what I used to ride in on the way to elementary 3rd grade.

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 22 2007, 06:02 AM
QUOTE (Di3S3L @ Today at 3:44 AM)
I might also post my Lancer EX 1800 for fun

ROFL! I have done ultimate chav-edition of it.. black, chrome rims, huuge wing, high rear, low front, everything as stiff as possible.. talk about undriveable.. whistling.gif

I also did the rest of power modifications to my MR2 (247bhp), and it's still just as fun to drive with same setup as earlier. I also did the rest of the weight reductions.

Posted by: Di3S3L Feb 22 2007, 01:59 PM
undriveable? the lancer is not undriveable. I'll be back with a fun setup.

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 22 2007, 02:36 PM
no peas, old buddy! I did make it undriveable on purpose. it's just too.. too.. too 80's to be driven seriously. whistling.gif

Posted by: Di3S3L Feb 22 2007, 04:10 PM
I said fun, not competetive. happy.gif
Oh well, if you don't want it that's fine, since this is more concentrated on competetive performance rather than driving pleasure.

I have yet to try out that evo setup...as I have...dangit more dishes already!...as you can see, there are a lot of people consuming clean dishes today, maybe tonight.

Posted by: Kurei Feb 22 2007, 04:35 PM
Eh my Evo should prove helpful in some way at least, its pretty fast around corners if you hit 'em right

QUOTE (Fintoy-83)
Lupo's 125ish.. and if you like bigger displacements, Fiat Punto Abarth won't let you down.


Eh, idk, i'll have to take a look at them sometime, but they don't seem to be what im looking for either, i was thinking about the SRT-4 but who knows

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 22 2007, 09:18 PM
whatever suits you.

and Diesel, it was just my opinion. I didn't say that I don't want it, did I? tongue.gif

Posted by: Di3S3L Feb 23 2007, 01:53 AM
lol I'm working on it, but I think it's pretty hopeless. reason I was trying to make that car run fast is because nobody uses it, upon comparison I figured out why nobody uses it. It's because of all the 4 cylinder, early 80's shitboxes, that was the shittiest shitbox there ever was. I dunno if they used a minica turbo engine for it, but for a 1800 engine, it was the most sluggish, underpowered engine I ever came across. And my goal was to make an enjoyable early 80's econo/sports car that was lightweight and fun and challenging to drive...well that lancer is obviously not gonna cut it, as much as I wanted to. sad.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 25 2007, 12:12 AM
Should I take a shot at it?

Posted by: sileighty of Usui Feb 26 2007, 04:06 PM
QUOTE (Kurei @ Feb 20 2007, 07:17 PM)
I tested the 'Race' version at Tsu and got a 0'52.xxx, so its not bad, but it could be much better

You need to tweak the Suspension to pull out the full potential of it in the corners, and also changing your Downforce to different levels would bring it up a few notch's too, i don't know much about BMW's and tuning them so your on your own there, but just some advice, If it can be adjusted, try adjusting it, don't always leave it at default, unless it works for you there.

Anyway im currently thinking about trying a new addition, but i can't decide which car to do, some idea's i have are the Brembo Evo 5 (or 6, not sure), the Nismo R32, a 3000GT, or some type of FF

*Added EDIT* i tried your variation of my evo stidriver, and the changes did make it calmer, and it runs smoother, i'll update my setup post, thanks happy.gif

Yeah try to tune a FF car to run as fast as normal Fr's. to me it sort of seems impossible xD

Posted by: FinToy-83 Feb 26 2007, 09:24 PM
it isn't impossible. actually I did already build one last night, a demonic red Pug 106 S16. though, the main point is handling, not the speed.. well, it's quite fast too. whistling.gif

Posted by: outlaw-2 Feb 27 2007, 08:47 AM
Behold... From Racer 666: Shutokou Wars...

The Tommykaira R (Had to use a skyline r34, and mod the looks a bit... tongue.gif And... had to use black colour as a replacement as there's no red.)

user posted image

Car: Nissan Skyline GTR V-spec II NUR 02'

Mods...
All weight reductions
Original Suspension (By mine's)
Racing Brakes
Brake Controller
Racing Flywheel
Triple-Plate Clutch
Carbon Driveshaft
Full Customise Transmission
R2 Tyres
Original Turbo (By Mine's)
Racing Intercooler
Racing Exhaust
Sports ECU
Engine Balancing
Port/Polish
Displacement UP
Oil Change
3D Type DB rear spoiler
Yokohama 025 Wheels


Settings...
Brakes: 6/4
Suspension: 11/12
Ride Height: 115/115
Damper: 9/9
Camber angle: 2.5/2.5
Toe-in/out: -4/-4
Stabiliser: 3/3
Downforce: 3/3
Transmission: First, set final gear to 2.500. Then, set auto gear to 25. From there, set gears 1 to 3, all the way to the left, set gear 4, slightly to the right, so long it's above gear 3's bottom line.


Tested...
Top Speed: 390kmh


Hope you guys enjoy it. This car was made to be unpredictable; downforce will come unexpectedly, like the one in my story.

Posted by: FinToy-83 Mar 1 2007, 03:48 PM
What a hairy beast to drive.. fear2.gif after that, 250bhp feels like walk in the park.

I'm currently creating Bunta's Toyota 2000GT, that is featured in Sanae's story. I'll keep it fairly stock, since it's damn well balanced for such an old car. And what a beauty she is.. wub.gif The car, not Sanae.. or, well, I don't know if sanae is pretty.. heck, I don't know if sanae is a girl or boy! ermm2.gif whistling.gif

Posted by: outlaw-2 Mar 1 2007, 08:12 PM
Lol, but how was it? Was it a tough one to handle? I had trouble at some corners as well. The downforce totally disappeared at times. XD

Posted by: FinToy-83 Mar 1 2007, 09:12 PM
powerslides were easy, but it was nasty when it suddenly gaioned traction. I think it killed me more than few times. fear2.gif

Posted by: outlaw-2 Mar 1 2007, 10:24 PM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 9:12 PM)
powerslides were easy, but it was nasty when it suddenly gaioned traction. I think it killed me more than few times. fear2.gif

Lol, it is almost to what I had expected the Tommykaira R would be... XD Dangerously fast and fatal. XD

Posted by: FinToy-83 Mar 2 2007, 06:57 AM
Yeah, indeed.. most of my cars aren't that lethal to their drivers, unless you drive over sharp crest around 165mp/h.. whistling.gif

http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0010wm4.jpghttp://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0009ts6.jpghttp://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0007sd5.jpghttp://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0006cj3.jpghttp://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0005rj2.jpghttp://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0004lz4.jpg

this is my gift to Sanae. I'll post the setup later.

Posted by: FinToy-83 Mar 11 2007, 12:48 PM
and now, my demonic ( or should I say reptilian?) addition to the GT-R's:

Gekko-R!


http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0006ye9.jpghttp://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0008qn6.jpg



This car started as humble try of replicating and improving performance over Mine's R34, but it got out of hands and became a handling monster that eats Mine's car for breakfast. Like the reptile it's named after, this beast just grips and goes exactly there where you want it to go.

911bhp, 948nm trq

Things to buy:

R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nur '02, Racing exhaust, racing chip, R3 tyres, (NOS if you really think you need it), Original turbine, Racing large intercooler, racing brakes, brake controller, racing suspension, fully customisable gearbox, triple plate clutch, racing fluwheel, carbon propeller shaft, weight reduction level 3, poet polish, engine balancing, displacement, wing and oilchange.

BBC: 2/1
DF: 30/30

Suspension
SR: 9.0/10.0
RH: 111/120
DBS: 3/4
DBRS: 4/6
camber: 3.0/1.5
Toe: 0/-2
Stab: 2/5

transmission

Auto 16
final 3.545

1st: 3.138
2nd: 2.142
3rd: 1.647
4th: 1.287
5th: 1.000
6th: 0.785

top speed: 350km/h+ ( oh my.. Berserker got a challenger.) have fun!


and a little bonus setup: Bunta's 2000GT

Things to buy:

2000GT, oil change, semi-racing exhaust, racing chip, NA stage 2, S2 tyres, racing brakes, brake balance controller, racing suspension, triple plate clutch, rtacing flywheel, carbon propeller shaft, 1-way LSD, weight reduction stage 1, port polish and engine balancing + Jaguar E-type rims.

BBC: 3/1

suspension

SR: 5.0/5.0
RH: 125/140
DBS: 4/4
DBRS: 8/8
camber: 3.0/1.5
Toe: 0/-2
Stab: 2/5

Posted by: outlaw-2 Mar 11 2007, 05:29 PM
Lol, but the speed of the Berserker is at least 40kmh more. tongue.gif I assume that yours have more acceleration? Also, your final gear is set at 3.545, mine is at 2.500. The smaller the number, the better acceleration is. Yes, you may think I have the edge, but take note, my first three gears are made to be wide while the last three are made to be quick. tongue.gif But in anyway, I'll give it a try.

P.S. why is everyone using downforce 30? Doesn't that compromise the speed?

Posted by: SKYLINE_32 Mar 11 2007, 07:35 PM
But it makes up for it in corners and braking. Two things I will take over speed. But to help top speed, GT4 has some weird way of increasing it if you put on full downforce at the rear and as little as possible on the front. This really works, I was able to pull 433 km/h with my TVR.

Posted by: FinToy-83 Mar 17 2007, 01:23 PM
allright, tomorrow I'll add a new car. it's absolutely incredible well handling car for an american.. on the other hand, it's a german car in disguise. can you guess which it is? wink2.gif

Posted by: SKYLINE_32 Mar 17 2007, 04:47 PM
Shelby Cobra 427?

Wait that's British.

Now I'm not sure.

What do you mean a German car in disguise?

I Can't Wait! bounce.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Mar 18 2007, 07:02 AM
and the new addition to my garage is..

Crossfire MFT ClubSport 410 .

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0006ks4.jpg

It looks like american retro model from the top, but underneath it's the unholy result of platform sharing, just like it's big brother, 300C, is. This car is actually M-B SLK, with american engine.
The engine has been tickled into it's full potential, and instead of asthmatic 200ish horsepower it delivers 410BHP, thus the name MFT ClubSport 410.
The suspension has been modified as well, improving the already good driving characteristics of this car. At it's current state, it's running neck to neck with other 400bhp+ cars, and it's very competitive in track use, despite wearing sports medium tires on it's wide 5-spoke rims.
The car has also gone thru a tight diet, bringing it's weight under 1200kg. In addition, original spoiler was removed and replaced with GT-style carbonfiber wing.

Fully modified, S2's, wing, oil change, stage 3 weight reduction, 1-way diff, no aids nor roll cage.

BBC: 5/3

Suspension
SR: 5.0/7.5
RH: 105/120
DBS: 5/6
DBRS: 6/8
C: 3.0/2.0
Toe: 0/-2
Stab: 3/6

stock gearbox

downforce: 30/20

feel free to try it out and review it.

Posted by: FinToy-83 Mar 24 2007, 11:11 PM
is anyone willing to try MFT CS 410?

Posted by: FinToy-83 Mar 31 2007, 01:52 PM
MFT Evolution VI TME "Black Widow", The ultimate grip monster

user posted image user posted image

This car was built for one thing: to beat Evolutions that were featuring that fancy AYC-gadget. The car was bought used, and was fully upgraded with best possible parts available, and after finishing up with the parts, the car spent many hours under horrible torment, beaten around track while its FC LSD was adjusted for best possible grip and turning ability.
The result is nothing else but a hardcore track machine, ready for Touge or JGTC, which ever suits your desires.

The name Black Widow came from it's bad habit of letting the rear loose under hard braking and turning for corner. Usually it turns into graceful AWD-drift, but sometimes the wall is too close.. so be mindful when giving her proper booting, because she'll bite your head off more agressively than most of supercars would.

What you need:

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR TME '00 (black, used, from the last used car lot, oil change and chassis refresh needed.)

Parts list:
Racing exhaust
Racing chip
Port polish
Engine balancing
S3/R3 tyres
Stage 3 turbo
Racing Large intercooler
Racing brakes
Brake balance controller
Racing suspension
FC gearbox
3-plate clutch
Racing flywheel
Carbon propeller shaft
GT-Wing
FC LSD
VCD
Weight reduction stage 3
Chassis refresh

after these modifications your car should have 513bhp and 588nm of torque.

BBC:5/3

AIDS: none.

Suspension:
SR: 5.5/5.0
RH: 110/110
DBS: 3/4
DBRS: 4/6
Camber: 3.0/1.5
Toe: 0/3
Stab: 3/5

Downforce: 30/25, adjust to your liking if needed

Gearbox: adjust to suit the track or personal preferences

LSD:
Initial: 35/10
Accel: 30/15
decel: 5/5

VCD: 50/50

With this setup, the car did 6'45.308 at Nurb, while topping out at 282km/h. With longer gear ratio, faster time is possible. It's the fastest sub 600bhp car I've driven on the 'ring this far.

Please, remember to TRY IT OUT and REVIEW IT, mmkay? Because FEEDBACK is something that even real world tuners need to know how to adjust the car.

Posted by: lotteman Apr 1 2007, 10:37 AM
hah im feelin ya fin.

anyways i tried your crossfire and I love it. just add better tires and you got a monster!

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 1 2007, 11:42 AM
sweet, thankies! try out the black widow as well, and bit more detailed review would be nice. sweatingbullets.gif

Posted by: lotteman Apr 1 2007, 01:18 PM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 11:42 AM)
sweet, thankies! try out the black widow as well, and bit more detailed review would be nice. sweatingbullets.gif

haha sorry i typed that on my PSP so I was too lazy to type alot.

Well, i tried it out some more and found the the car feels a little too soft! Like you can literrally feel the car squating and such. I kinda like it and it does help since the tires aren't really the best. I think hardening the springs and adding S3's would make it alot faster. Also I think if you added a FC LSD and messed around with it other than sticking on a 1.0lsd it would have better exits and such. The stock transmission on this car is great but I don't think it can achieve as much as a FC tranny. I love how the car looks though. It looks like something you would see in some kinda concept car race series.

I'll try the black widow once i have time. BTW! YOU OWE ME A REVIEW!! haha jk

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 1 2007, 01:40 PM
well, I hadn't made my breakthrough in LSD tuning when I made this car, does that explain the lack of FC LSD? and the suspension's softness is just because of the lless grippy tyres, since it helps to keep the tyres on the ground, just like in those roadgoing drag cars; Squat and go..

yes, that sounds pervy.

I did leave the FC gearbox out of this car just because it's a Club Sport, cheapish, easy to live with trackday car, that can be driven on all tracks without bothering yourself with gear ratios. if the ratios don't suit the track, then you just have to be a real ace behind the wheel.

I'll make a review when I get out of school.

Posted by: Kurei Apr 1 2007, 02:56 PM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Yesterday at 4:52 PM)
MFT Evolution VI TME "Black Widow", The ultimate grip monster

user posted image user posted image

This car was built for one thing: to beat Evolutions that were featuring that fancy AYC-gadget. The car was bought used, and was fully upgraded with best possible parts available, and after finishing up with the parts, the car spent many hours under horrible torment, beaten around track while its FC LSD was adjusted for best possible grip and turning ability.
The result is nothing else but a hardcore track machine, ready for Touge or JGTC, which ever suits your desires.

The name Black Widow came from it's bad habit of letting the rear loose under hard braking and turning for corner. Usually it turns into graceful AWD-drift, but sometimes the wall is too close.. so be mindful when giving her proper booting, because she'll bite your head off more agressively than most of supercars would.

What you need:

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR TME '00 (black, used, from the last used car lot, oil change and chassis refresh needed.)

Parts list:
Racing exhaust
Racing chip
Port polish
Engine balancing
S3/R3 tyres
Stage 3 turbo
Racing Large intercooler
Racing brakes
Brake balance controller
Racing suspension
FC gearbox
3-plate clutch
Racing flywheel
Carbon propeller shaft
GT-Wing
FC LSD
VCD
Weight reduction stage 3
Chassis refresh

after these modifications your car should have 513bhp and 588nm of torque.

BBC:5/3

AIDS: none.

Suspension:
SR: 5.5/5.0
RH: 110/110
DBS: 3/4
DBRS: 4/6
Camber: 3.0/1.5
Toe: 0/3
Stab: 3/5

Downforce: 30/25, adjust to your liking if needed

Gearbox: adjust to suit the track or personal preferences

LSD:
Initial: 35/10
Accel: 30/15
decel: 5/5

VCD: 50/50

With this setup, the car did 6'45.308 at Nurb, while topping out at 282km/h. With longer gear ratio, faster time is possible. It's the fastest sub 600bhp car I've driven on the 'ring this far.

Please, remember to TRY IT OUT and REVIEW IT, mmkay? Because FEEDBACK is something that even real world tuners need to know how to adjust the car.

My god, that thing looks like even the body was custom made from ID, lol, oh i gotta give this a try now that im done with the Battalion series

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 1 2007, 02:58 PM
LOL, I just sent you PM about this car laugh.gif sure, go ahead and take your time. I'm pretty sure that you'll be impressed..

Posted by: Kurei Apr 1 2007, 03:02 PM
^ Can you upload a bigger pic of it ?, those thumbnails are microscopic

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 1 2007, 03:07 PM
edit: god damn, how come they don't let you click them? well, I'll see what i can do. I'll upload them to photobucket or something.


http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5121996

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5121995

there ya go

Posted by: Kurei Apr 1 2007, 05:53 PM
Well i luckly managed to snag one somehow just like perfect timing, 'cept its in blue, but still looks nice, i actually took it to Capri on S3's since i had the spare time, and it was pretty fun, can't wait to test it full blown happy.gif

Edit* w00t2.gif 900TH POST!!! w00t2.gif

Edit1* Here's the review, hope you actually see it since i can't bump this thread w/o double posting

I took your evo to Tsukuba, it seems to be my car test standard course, lol, and just accelerating in a straight line, i could feel one interesting thing about this car

It has almost no shift-shock, it doesn't hop or bog down, it just stays level, very impressive

So im approaching the big corner, i go for the brakes, and guess what ?, like you said that rear just wants to fly on its own, so im flying all over the corner just trying to get it back into line, and i do and head for the start/finish line, coming up to the first turn im anticipating the rear's movement this time, it does it just slightly, but enough for me to throw it into a all-wheel drift, and it was beautiful, same angle all along the apex, right at the peak of the powerband

After that i just grip normally through the next corner and head to the section with the giant tire, after clearing the first part and heading towards the 2nd left hand turn after passing under the tire, i wanted to see exactly how much grip this "ultimate grip monster" has, so i just turned in, floored it, and i couldn't have hit it any better, no understeer, no oversteer, no smoke, all throttle and grip, this is really a different Evo

Once that was over, i just completed the lap like normal, but overall this is a great car, there are really no problems with it, the only thing i would say to improve on it trying to lessen that desire of the rear to go out wide, and maybe some more front tire grip, other than that this is very good, you did put alot of work into its LSD, you can feel it from just driving that its been well adjusted, Bravo

Makes me wonder what you'll put out next...

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 3 2007, 03:11 AM
I'm still working on that sexily swinging butt, bit she doesn't want to be tamed yet..Brake balance-issue perhaps, or maybe it needs some downforce or balance weight.. I'm trying to be subtle with the changes so that I wouldn't ruin the overall balance of the car.
Little more front-end grip? Hmmm.. I think I'll try finishing few FF LSD-setups before paying more attention to the Evo's front diff. I've got few very nicely handling FF's already, but I'm going to try and improve them bit more.
I've mostly done some lighter GTi-class cars, but soon i'll try something heavier, although FF's don't like if their power is increased above 210bhp. And just for fun, try this LSD/suspension setup on Golf R32 or Audi TT V6. They're almost as sweet handlers, especially the Golf.

Thanks for the detailed review, that's a perfect birthday gift. wink2.gif whistling.gif

Next I'll probably put out either something light and FWD or heavy and RWD.. or maybe a RUF-slayer? who knows. now that i finally got the idea how the LSD works in GT4, it's easy to make full weight AMV8 Vantage to handle like champ. cool.gif

Posted by: Kurei Apr 3 2007, 02:41 PM
Yea it took me awhile to learn how LSD works in GT also, but guess what ?, now that i know about it i don't even use it, ironic huh ?, no VCD either, just pure mechanical ability, its like Subaru's are Mechanical and Evo's are Electronic, lol

Anyways it's been awhile since i put out a Tuner car, so here's one thats definatly a blast.

The First MR that i truely like, The Toyota MRS Spyder (Tuned by 4-wheel specialty)
user posted image

What you'll need, A 2002 Toyota MRS Spyder
Parts:
-Racing Exhaust
-Racing Brakes
-Brake Controller
-Port Polish
-Engine Balance
-Racing Chip
-FC Transmission
-Triple-Plate Clutch
-Racing Flywheel
-Stage 3. Turbo
-FC Suspension
-R3 Tires
-Stage 3. Weight Reduction

Your HP should be 295 on the dyno after all this

Settings: No Aids
BC: 5/3
SR: 4.8/6.0
RH: 100/98
SB: 4/5
SRB: 4/6
C: 2.5/1.8
STB: 7/6
Transmission: Set to track/preference
DF: 28/24

This car was originally intended to rival the JGTC MRS from Toyota, but it does that and more...

Ever wanted to know what it would be like to drive similarly to Godhand ?, well this MRS well get you just that, and possibly more, i've eliminated all the bad habits of the MR drivetrain, this thing sticks and holds its ground with no spin-factor or tendency to falter in the corners

I focused alot on the overall balance of it to achieve that, and you'll know what i mean when you drive it, thats why its not fully downforced or anything

Its also a great car to relax in, it runs so smoothly that you hardly experience stress

Other than that, give it a try and see what you think happy.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 3 2007, 08:28 PM
I'll give it a shot when I get back from school. personally I prefer AW11 ans SW20 to this poor mans boxter, but I also know that it has potential.

Posted by: Kurei Apr 5 2007, 02:18 PM
Well its been a day or so, have you tried it yet ?, i'd like to know the results on this one so i can get my next car out, the ultimate Wangan/Touge/Track machine

And when i say ultimate, i mean it, blow the doors off anything you guys put out and it sounds damn good too

That and it can lap Tsukuba in under 50 secs

Posted by: \\ayumu-kasuga// Apr 5 2007, 05:20 PM
dry.gif

>_>

psssssst! yeah, you

*evo III tune request here*

need a good car to revive evo vr wrx thread before round 2.

please??????

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 5 2007, 11:08 PM
I'll see what I can do. actually, I have a setup already for Evo III, I just need to adapt it to the track you want.

Kurei, I've already bought and tried the car, but I've been bit too busy.. now, thanks to easter, I can finally test it properly. you'll get the review today. btw, does that car have LSD of any kind?

Posted by: Kurei Apr 6 2007, 04:02 AM
Nope, im not that big of a fan of LSD's, you don't really need them if you've got exceptional throttle control

Plus the MRS runs great without it happy.gif

Posted by: outlaw-2 Apr 6 2007, 04:49 AM
Lol, I've been figuring out the LSD myself when tuning a 4WD for the past few days, and I'm happy that I shoved it aside and did more on rear wheel drive cars. I think I can never be able to handle 4WDs, except for the Celica GT-Four where Kurei actually liked it ><. I'm now fiddling with an RX-7 and retuning the Berserker R's suspension. The Berserker R, second version maybe out soon. The handling's very much improved and more tamed. Just one thing though, if you love power-overing in GT4, the Berserker R maybe your car this time...

Posted by: Spitfireix Apr 6 2007, 04:49 AM
Just a newcomer on the forums striking in here... the LSD in my opinion does such a bunch of good things to a handling that I have to disagree with the above comment by Kurei. Even trail braking can be a pain in some cars but it can be easily cured by a well set up LSD, not to mention fine tuning the handling when the racing gets really serious.

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 6 2007, 08:59 AM
Kurei, I tested the car without the LSD @ Tsukuba, and I have to admit that it has very small things to improve, if even that.

How did it feel: Plenty of grip, excellent turn-in and exit speed in slower, tighter corners. but in the last corner before the straight, car felt unsure; it did try to drift, but then it understeered and as a result, the overall speed suffered. there was also small amount of pogoing in some corners. Also, I felt that the cars grip came from tyres, not so much from the suspension or downforce ( hence the uncertain handling at the final corner).


Outlaw, GT-R's are easy since they have perfect VCD/LSD already, called ATTESA-ETS Pro wub.gif and even RWD's can be improved with LSD, especially heavy RWD's like Aston Martins.

Spitfireix: hello thar, and yes, I agree with you.. naturally. congrats for losing the forum virginity in this thread. laugh2.gif

Posted by: outlaw-2 Apr 7 2007, 06:31 AM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Yesterday at 8:59 AM)



Outlaw, GT-R's are easy since they have perfect VCD/LSD already, called ATTESA-ETS Pro wub.gif and even RWD's can be improved with LSD, especially heavy RWD's like Aston Martins.


Lol, and yes, there's more good news... Angel R (BNR32) is finally in progress. I understood how a GTR's suspension fully works, and yeah... I maybe able to counter the weird understeer I've been having... And yes, if you still have the Berserker R, here's the suspension setup. The gearbox setup may come quite soon.

Springs: 12/10
Ride Height: 100/110
Damper (Both bound and rebound): 8/8
Camber angle: 2.5/ 1.7
Toe in/out: -1/2
Stabiliser: 6/6

Posted by: SKYLINE_32 Apr 7 2007, 06:58 PM
Outlaw, just wondering. If you've driven my Tribute GT-R and if you have, how does the handling compare with Angel R? Sorry I haven't been able to test any cars lately because I've been busy racing in the JGTC.

Posted by: outlaw-2 Apr 7 2007, 09:56 PM
QUOTE (SKYLINE_32 @ Today at 6:58 PM)
Outlaw, just wondering. If you've driven my Tribute GT-R and if you have, how does the handling compare with Angel R? Sorry I haven't been able to test any cars lately because I've been busy racing in the JGTC.

I've haven't tried yet actually, but I am interested with how an R32 handles. I'll take a look at your R32, and compare to mine. But there's one unique feature I noticed. Even with 755bhp, the Angel R doesn't need a GT spoiler to keep the tyres down. The ATTHESA does it for the R32 and actually corners more better without the GT spoiler. Top speed is a natural limit of 360kmh as well. As for cornering, I used the traditional "brake, tap gas, turn, half gas, tap brake, full gas"

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 8 2007, 02:02 AM
VSII is the best regular R32, and naturally, S-tune is the best stickerbook-R32, as long as we leave Calsonic GT-R out of count. Calsonic is wrestling in completely different series now.. since it simply loved this new LSD setup of mine.. only 2 seconds behind Escudo.. fear2.gif

Posted by: outlaw-2 Apr 8 2007, 03:45 AM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 2:02 AM)
VSII is the best regular R32, and naturally, S-tune is the best stickerbook-R32, as long as we leave Calsonic GT-R out of count. Calsonic is wrestling in completely different series now.. since it simply loved this new LSD setup of mine.. only 2 seconds behind Escudo.. fear2.gif

Yeah, that's what i used for the Angel R. Though, I realised something. The I can't get an R32 to do some power-over in some way, while the R33 power-overs are a little more unexpected, and the R34... Whoa, you're all over the place, but you're in control if you know how to handle it. But for me, this is how I see the three differences...

BNR32
-Ultra grip
-Powerband seems to be a bit... one directional
-Requires more work to clear a corner and maintain the suitable speed.
-The higher the ride height, the better the cornering ability.

BNCR33
-Semi-grip, the rear seems a bit slip-stricken
-Powerband is suitable for me but looks like a rally car's powerband.
-Requires even more work to turn as you may understeer all of a sudden
-Mid-range ride height is best for cornering ability.

BNR34
-Grip/Slip
-Powerband is perfect (Peak is in the mid-range, good for cornering at high revs.)
-Working in the corners... You need some animal instinct to read the car's reactions. Underestimate it, see the wall on outside. Overestimate, see wall on inside.
-Mid-low ride height is best for cornering.

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 8 2007, 03:53 AM
well, if you've tried the Gekko-R's suspension setup on BNR32 VSII/Nismo, you'd probably remember that it was racecar first, roadcar second.. the two last generations are softer roadcars, loaded with gadgets.. and thus they're also heavier than the R32.

R32= w1n
R33= l053
R34=semi-w1n

biased? me? blink.gif whistling.gif

Posted by: Spitfireix Apr 8 2007, 04:39 AM
QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 2:53 PM)
R32= w1n
R33= l053
R34=semi-w1n

biased? me? blink.gif whistling.gif

That's not biasedness, that's just the truth... the old model feels a lot more planted in tight cornering whereas the later generations have a more or less floaty feeling in them, must be the truckload of electronics between the road and the driver. And it's fast too, believe me...

Posted by: outlaw-2 Apr 8 2007, 10:56 AM
Heads up, fin. Angel R's is up and running...

Posted by: FinToy-83 Apr 8 2007, 12:43 PM
yes, I've noticed. i'll do her.. err, test her tomorrow. tongue.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 May 20 2007, 12:31 PM
MFT Camaro Z/520 '69

http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camaroz520sq0.jpg

My biggest gripe in typical american cars is the fact that the torque and power have been split apart. Torque is low down, and horsepower high up. There are few exceptions though, like some Chevrolets. This time I used '69 305ci Z/28 Camaro, and gave it more power and improved the handling and drivetrain. Thus, I represent MFT Camaro Z/520'69! (pics will be up tomorrow)

What you need: Chevrolet Camaro 305ci Z/28 '69

oilchange, racing exhaust, racing chip, NA stage 3,port polish, engine balancing, S3 tyres, racing brakes, brake controller, racing suspension, racing transmission, triple plate clutch, racing flywheel, carbon driveshaft, FC LSD, weigh reduction stage 2/3

Suspension:
SR: 5.0/3.0
RH: 110/110
DBS: 5/3
DRBS: 5/3
Camber: 3.0/1.5
Toe: 0/-2
Stabilizer: 5/2

LSD
I:30
A:13
D:5

BBC: 5/3

Posted by: FinToy-83 Sep 22 2007, 02:01 PM
Okay, since I left this thread alone for a while because me and my friend put up a new ( and very successful) tuner thread up in the GTP, I've decided to link my setups from there to here. there's more tune-ups on the first page of that thread, but for now I'm only linking my own ones. Feel free to test them and leave comments/reviews to either thread.

Alpine "Bluebird"
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2717369&postcount=54

Gekko Jr.
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2764866&postcount=439

Godzilla
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2770290&postcount=484

Grim R34per
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2774949&postcount=536

Impreza Coupe R "Frost"
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2719666&postcount=71

Mazda FD-R
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2741820&postcount=172

C740R
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2726878&postcount=113

MFT Celica GT200
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2722397&postcount=84

MFT GP-X/R
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2736280&postcount=152

MFT Mustang GT-S
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2708403&postcount=8

MFT R4
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2729356&postcount=133

MFT X-Fire
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2745699&postcount=183

Mister Black
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2756132&postcount=289

Mitsubishi 3000GT-R
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2733653&postcount=145

Nismo 450R
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2724286&postcount=96

RUF BTR "BlackBird"
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2712924&postcount=36

TRD Trueno Gr.A
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2750961&postcount=235

TVR Cerbera CS
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2759815&postcount=376

Abarth 500RS Turbo'72
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2789625&postcount=781

Wolfsburg Coupe QC Turbo'49
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2785682&postcount=747

There you go, I hope you guys will enjoy. I will make proper links later.

Posted by: Spitfireix Sep 30 2007, 12:38 AM
When shall we see the "proper links" and what do you mean by them? wink2.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Oct 1 2007, 09:21 AM
Proper links shall come up when they do, and oyu know exactly what I mean.

Posted by: EA11R Oct 2 2007, 09:17 PM
Ooh, this is like a history lesson: "Leonidae, Pre-MFT"!

I think you got a hint lisdexic in the Camaro description: horsepoweris high and torque is low?

Posted by: Spitfireix Oct 3 2007, 09:49 AM
I think he means the location of the torque peak and maximum horsepower on the powerband, the torque is in the low RPM region while the maximum power is attained near the redline. And unfortunately the result is an engine that never seems to give full power.

Seeing you speak about lessons, how good are you at calculating 1+1 when it comes to certain graphical things? wink2.gif

Posted by: EA11R Oct 7 2007, 06:31 PM
QUOTE
Seeing you speak about lessons, how good are you at calculating 1+1 when it comes to certain graphical things? 
Ummmm... What? blink.gif I'm confused. And yeah, I looked at it again and realized I just misunderstood the phrasing. But, it's always fun to say 'lisdexic!' LISDEXIC! Wheeee! grin2.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Oct 12 2007, 06:41 AM
added two cars, and there's more to come as soon as they'll get published.

Posted by: FinToy-83 Nov 25 2007, 12:35 PM
and tomorrow, I'll add more of these setups of mine. feel free to test these out and comment either here or GTP.

Posted by: FinToy-83 Oct 23 2008, 07:18 AM
Okay, if there's any interest, I'm willing to awaken this thread again. just to start off and remind you people of 100+ setups at GTP, http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96301

Posted by: .M. Oct 25 2008, 05:30 PM
I was wondering if you were interested in making a setup for the 'ol prowler biggrin.gif

Posted by: FinToy-83 Oct 26 2008, 08:09 AM
I did try once, but it's rather hopeless.

Posted by: .M. Oct 26 2008, 06:19 PM
ah, was wondering ^.^

Posted by: FinToy-83 Nov 18 2008, 07:07 AM
Nissan Silvia FQ Aero'93

282 bhp, 318 Nm, 1020 kg

http://www.kotikone.fi/rtl/gt4/madfinntuners/pictures/images/silviafqfront.jpg http://www.kotikone.fi/rtl/gt4/madfinntuners/pictures/images/silviafqrear.jpg
Clickable for full size


Parts to fit:
Racing Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
NA Tuning Stage 3
Port Polishing
Engine Balancing
Racing Chip
FC Transmission
Triple-plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
FC Suspension
S3 Tyres
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Rigidity Increase (rollcage)
Oil Change
New Wheels (Nismo GT4 LM bronze)

Suspension
Spring Rate: 6.0 / 6.0
Ride Height: 106 / 120
Bound: 5 / 5
Rebound: 10 / 6
Camber: 2.0 / 1.3
Toe: -1 / -2
Stabilizers: 3 / 5

Brake Controller
Brakes: 3 / 2

Transmission

Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

Gear Ratios
1st: 2.854
2nd: 2.040
3rd: 1.563
4th: 1.256
5th: 1.030
6th: 0.860
Final Gear: 4.250

Autoset 7

LSD
Initial: 10
Acceleration: 25
Deceleration: 5

Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer: 0
ASM Understeer: 0
TCS: 0



Behold at yet another Nissan from MFT! As the rest of the lot, this is by no means your everyday shopping trolley. No, it's lightened to the extreme, decorated with an integrated rollcage and lightweight bucket seats, and every pedal and switch has become a precision tool for going fast. "But this car is naturally aspirated, it can't be that fast.." Well, our test run on Autumn Ring told us otherwise. It did beat 425bhp Evo V GSR by 2 seconds. On short track like that, 2 seconds is an eternity. And this happened with mere 282bhp and no downforce. And still it has crisp handling and it's willing to kick the tail out playfully when provoked. At high speed corners, some caution is needed since even MFT's wizards can't defeat the laws of the physics. Anyway, from our point of view, this car has deserved the moniker Silvia FQ Aero. And we all know what the FQ means, don't we?

Posted by: Gabzor Nov 29 2008, 11:26 PM
that mr2 sc was lots of fun biggrin.gif but i do get the constant feeling that it can use more power if you know what i mean

Posted by: FinToy-83 Nov 30 2008, 03:40 AM
indeed I know what you mean. too bad that the SC models is equally gutless. pinch2.gif

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