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Double cluching, how?| killerenergy |  Posted: Mar 14 2003, 11:40 AM |
Hi!  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,360 Member No.: 152 Joined: Dec 22nd 2002 Location: Ohio | wanna explain what double cluching is? |
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| S13 Driver | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 11:46 AM |
IDW Jr. Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Member No.: 214 Joined: Jan 27th 2003 Location: United States | I push in the clutch to pull the car out of gear, let the clutch out, rev the gas to the RPM the car needs to be at when I downshift, let the gas out (keeping it at the right RPM is essential), push the clutch in, put the shifter in gear. |
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| Jayson | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 11:55 AM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | that be the heel to the toe I believe.  Double clutching is a technique that truck drivers came up with. Basicaly you; 1. Engage the clutch, foot of gas, move the shifter to neutral. 2. Disengage the clutch. 3. Engage the clutch, shift into gear, and continue as normal. It's mainly used for cars with no syncro's or very bad syncros |
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| S13 Driver | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:00 PM | ||
IDW Jr. Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Member No.: 214 Joined: Jan 27th 2003 Location: United States |
heal toe is where you take your toe and push the brakes and your heel to touch the gas... I don't touch the brakes anywhere in there. | ||
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| Jayson | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:01 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | then why do rev to match the rpms? Sounds like your trying to heel toe, minus the brake  |
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| S13 Driver | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:03 PM | ||
IDW Jr. Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Member No.: 214 Joined: Jan 27th 2003 Location: United States |
To downshift... What you explained is double clutching too. What you explained is double clutching for upshifting. If you use your technique on downshifting you're gonna be putting hellified wear and tear on your clutch by letting it out like that. Rev matching makes it where downshifting is as fluid or more fluid than upshifting. | ||
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| Jayson | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:04 PM | ||
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL |
actualy, you let half your foot on the brake, and kinda roll your foot, or "blip" the gas. Heel toe is really a misleading name | ||
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| Jayson | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:06 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | My bad! So your slowing down gradualy.  I'm always thinking and trying to apply these things to racing, so my mistake |
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| S13 Driver | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:07 PM | ||||
IDW Jr. Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Member No.: 214 Joined: Jan 27th 2003 Location: United States |
You just really have to put your two cents in on everything don't you. If this is correct then how do you drift using heel toe? To continue a drift your rear wheels have to keep spinning. If you're pushing the brakes more than the gas then common sense would say that you're gonna stop the drift. I do not drift because my car isn't fast enough to do it and I don't have a LSD on my car yet. | ||||
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| Jayson | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:10 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | You use heel toe to tdown shift and slow down before the drift, then you start the drift. You should never have to shift during a drift |
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| S13 Driver | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:13 PM | ||
IDW Jr. Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Member No.: 214 Joined: Jan 27th 2003 Location: United States |
I think I see... so basically the "heel toe" technique goes as so: 1) hit brake to move weight distro to front to let the rear wheels lose some traction 2) hit gas to rev match to downshift thus making wheels turn faster making em spin and initiate drift | ||
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| Jayson | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:15 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | w3rd. Simple on paper, hard in execution.  |
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| S13 Driver | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:17 PM |
IDW Jr. Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Member No.: 214 Joined: Jan 27th 2003 Location: United States | When I get my engine and LSD I'll have to practice some. |
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| Jayson | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:31 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | I suggest going to a HUGE parking lot (I go to Miller Park when it rains) and start practicing there |
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| alikax | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:39 PM |
IDW Regular Member Group: Members Posts: 210 Member No.: 253 Joined: Feb 19th 2003 Location: vegas | also keep in mind that a heel-toe downshift should take the same amount of time as a regular downshift... I found this to be pretty accurate: http://www.turnfast.com/tech_driving/drivi...g_heeltoe.lasso |
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| Jayson | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:44 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | cool |
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| Wheels84ss | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 12:49 PM |
IDW Prime Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 607 Member No.: 275 Joined: Feb 25th 2003 Location: Sayreville, NJ | Your mostly on point with the idea of heel-toe but you don't really use it to create wheel spin, otherwise she goes around to quick. You blip the gas to match the revs so you get a smooth transition. Otherwise you throw the weight back to far and induce understeer to quickly. Remember the biggest part of drift is weight transfer, do any rapid changes disturb the ability to drift. The wheels should break from interia, not from "clutch dumping". |
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| killerenergy | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 01:16 PM |
Hi! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,360 Member No.: 152 Joined: Dec 22nd 2002 Location: Ohio | You can learn alot from arguements thanks  |
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| Perry | Posted: Mar 14 2003, 04:53 PM |
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| Indecisive | Posted: Mar 15 2003, 12:42 AM |
the deranged one Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,132 Member No.: 34 Joined: Oct 1st 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada | there's a topic on it already ~*TOPIC CLOSED*~ |
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