I run 3'20 on akina last time i checked...????
Unless thats not directed to me
I guess the cars capabilities, when stage 7, allow people to take corners like crazy?!
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| Posted by: ZanbatouZanbatou Jul 24 2007, 11:25 AM |
| These threads have always been good for forums. If anyone has a question they needed answered you should ask them here instead of making a new thread for it. I'm sure the forum members would be more than happy to answer them. So i'd like to get it started. I recently asked "what is penalty cancel" Braja replied: penalty cancel is a brake tap. basically, take your foot off the gas and in a millisecond tap the brake with your left foot and pounce back on the gas. this can also be done without the brake simply by pumping the gas but it's not as efficient and harder to control. in that case you usually just bounce RPM's but doesnt help acceleration. penalty cancel with brake usually resets the acceleration. you should penalty cancel: anytime you lose speed... -after a turn -as you're exiting a turn -after hitting a wall -anytime you feel you're going too slow ha it's best to do it in a straight line, as any other time the car will wanna drift or lose traction. so after a turn is usually the most popular time Thnx Braja! Ask away ppl. |
| Posted by: 207 Jul 24 2007, 08:12 PM |
| i hav a question on character modifications, you get a feature you can add- do you hav the option to refuse the feature? and also is it worth trying the game given the overpowered boost in vs battles? i just played mt3 for the 1st time today, the arcade literally just got it on the 24th, it looks like a good game. thing is that if i wanna play as4 ill need to go downtown, so i dont know if i should make that trip to play the game. |
| Posted by: FknAzN Jul 24 2007, 09:42 PM |
| Hey i was just wondering.. What DOES grinding the bumper of the person infront of you does?!? I know its sorta of a pressure thing, thats obvious? But what are the more indepth things to it? |
| Posted by: Retsuka Jul 24 2007, 09:59 PM |
| 207: yes you can accept and decline facial features for your avi. fknazn: grinding the bumper of the person infront of you makes extreamly annoying grinding sounds which puts off not only both drivers, but everyone in the surrounding area of the arcade too. it does slow down the leading persons accelerating a bit too but its nothing a bit of swering here and there cant fix... plus it doesnt slow down accel enough to pass them unless your already going 7-10km+ faster than them. question of my own now: how do you run 2'57 on akina? step by step guide plix lol. |
| Posted by: FknAzN Jul 24 2007, 10:05 PM |
| Who runs 2'57 in akina?! I run 3'20 on akina last time i checked...???? Unless thats not directed to me I guess the cars capabilities, when stage 7, allow people to take corners like crazy?! |
| Posted by: Ben Jul 24 2007, 10:06 PM | ||||
When you get the randomly selector option, you can choose to 'Add' or 'Refuse'. Leaving you with your original face 'part'. Vs battles aren't the whole game anymore, they've made it harder to battle by all means. I can see TA's getting alot bigger on the day to day play of AS4.
Basically slows you down, not by a whole lot, but by enough, on a large straight for your opponent to overtake you. + I haven't seen it extensively, but in V3 you would lose traction with someone right up your ass. I'm waiting to see if it's the same, so far I believe they've gotten rid of that. |
| Posted by: Braja Jul 24 2007, 10:07 PM | ||||
well i dunno quite how to explain "in depth", but i'll explain my experiences with it... the grinding has most effect for a NON-BOOST battle. cause with boost anything is possible. sadly i'm usually the victim of bumper grind, since i usually win startup. at the race startup opponents will naturally push you 1st then once you get in front, ride your bumper. the moment i get in front and their bumper rubs mine i notice my RPM's drop by about 2000 or so. not only that but acceleration is terrible as long as theyre attached. as i've said before i end up usually entering a corner almost a full gear lower than if it's a TA or computer opponent. plus depending on how we take the turn the grinding can push me wide or outta control. i've tried bumper grind and seems to work well for me too, though i've had more experience as a victim so havent mastered the many benefits. and its hard to do unless you start almost evenly. if the person totally outguns you on startup you cant grind enough to make a difference, as retsuka kinda said. basically grind them till you notice you have a higher speed. then at a safe spot or a good corner trot around them. don't be affraid to wait for an opening. cause if you initiate a pass too soon you'll lose control, and cant get back on their bumper.
asakurayume, one of the guys i played with in beta testing, is the 3rd ranked. he was the 1st to hit 2'57". i havent seen him since beta version, though been trying to find him again recently. he doesnt go to his arcade as much. anyway my best is a 3'04" but usually run around 3'09"ish. FT definitely makes a diff. still, i can get around 3'12"-14 average in a stock car. the 86 race engine helps the champs. but its mostly skill. i wont give a step-by-step though as i'm not one of the best |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Jul 24 2007, 10:23 PM | ||
so ur saying, if ur in a straight line, and the guy is in front of u and u want to have a faster acceleration, u use the penalty cancel?? to go fasteR?? |
| Posted by: Braja Jul 24 2007, 10:29 PM | ||
well thats a bit extreme as i was being sarcastic for the last point. BUT, the point is that it can't hurt to try. i usually only do it 2-3 times most at any given point. but in most high-class battles or battles both racers are doing it constantly just in case. sometimes its more annoying/worse than TST shift rapers in ver.3. you just keep hearing the damn blow-off valve on turbos for the whole race and then you just keep seeing the opponents brake lights blinking over and over |
| Posted by: Retsuka Jul 24 2007, 11:34 PM |
| i would like to see a akina dh dry vid of 2'59-... the best ive heard anyone do in eng version is like 3'10. there might even be a slight physic difference for all we know. |
| Posted by: Ben Jul 25 2007, 12:09 AM | ||
I've done it in under 3'10 man.. |
| Posted by: ZanbatouZanbatou Jul 25 2007, 10:22 AM | ||
have you seen this vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrS9XJXOV5E he runs 3'01. RHOD exit speed 143. The left turn after RHOD exit speed 164 X_X. He actually topped out b4 the hairpins. Watching that vid really makes me realise that I have to FT my car. Question: When you do a penalty cancel.....and if you do it fast enough you won't lose a single km/h due to tapping the brake? |
| Posted by: MAFD Jul 25 2007, 10:41 AM |
| You do brake cancel as you exit the corner just as your car straightens up. I'm guessing you will still loose at least maybe 1kph but the time you lost loosing that 1kph will be more than made up by the increased acceleration you will have. |
| Posted by: Retsuka Jul 25 2007, 12:12 PM | ||
yea ive seen that one, but again thats japanese version, i wanna see THAT on english version. |
| Posted by: Pasta Jul 25 2007, 01:57 PM | ||
If you do it fast enough, then you shouldn't lose even 1 kph. Keep in mind, the higher speed you are going, the more chance of dropping that 1 kph, but for the most part, you should be able to do it without losing speed. |
| Posted by: MAFD Jul 25 2007, 06:42 PM |
| Brake cancel is what I really need to work on, I can't do it fast enough yet when I do it I loose around 2-3kph. |
| Posted by: ZanbatouZanbatou Jul 26 2007, 09:31 AM | ||
i tried it for the first time yesterday....and I too lose 2-3 km/h surely i'll get faster the more i try it. |
| Posted by: Retsuka Jul 26 2007, 12:24 PM |
| i think you guys are pushing the brake down fully, tap the brake dont full on stomp on it lol. btw, both feeted drivers have the advanatage here, so if you only use your right leg you will lose 2-3km. |
| Posted by: MAFD Jul 26 2007, 01:38 PM |
| I use my left foot but as you said I think I push the brakes down too much. I do it as if I'm changing gears in a manual. |
| Posted by: tvv1n2ur80 Jul 28 2007, 11:00 AM |
| Anyone tested this penalty cancel on the english ID4 yet? It seems to slow me down. |
| Posted by: ZanbatouZanbatou Jul 28 2007, 11:54 AM |
| it works wonders for me. |
| Posted by: Retsuka Jul 28 2007, 12:12 PM | ||
i think almost EVERYONE here plays english version except braja. it doesnt slow you down if you know when to use it. quite possibly you need someone to show you how its done. |
| Posted by: tvv1n2ur80 Jul 28 2007, 02:53 PM |
| Okay I tried it and it works nicely, just need to get used to using both feet instead of just the right foot if you are penalty cancel-ling and you end up slower. |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Jul 29 2007, 12:16 AM |
| it seems to work, but i usually just shift down than shift back up, which also greatly increases my acceleration....... |
| Posted by: MAFD Jul 29 2007, 01:06 AM | ||
Hmm that's interesting, gotta try it on Tuesday! |
| Posted by: ZanbatouZanbatou Jul 29 2007, 04:45 PM |
| Does anybody know what time i should be aiming for if i want to beat Bunta in LOTS? |
| Posted by: Phoenix_Cypher_K1 Jul 29 2007, 04:52 PM |
| Bunta runs 3'17 for the first LotS cycle IIRC... |
| Posted by: Legend of Speed Jul 29 2007, 08:54 PM |
| A newbie question, but it's been so long since I played IDAS and I've been out of the scene. Now that I heard that NA is going to get IDASv4 I was wondering if I can transfer my v3 cards to v4? |
| Posted by: DamienWolf Jul 29 2007, 08:56 PM | ||
You cant. Its a new card system. |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Jul 29 2007, 11:29 PM |
| which is better of these two?? FD or s2000?? i got myself a FD coz i was told s2000 was crap compared to the FD and i liked the new kit XD, so did i make a right choice?? |
| Posted by: Silfa Jul 30 2007, 01:09 AM |
| I actually drove both stock during my first time playing. In the end, you can't really compare them until you FT both cars and see during your time attack sessions. Plus if you can drive, you should be fine. But if not then its gonna be a long struggle for you. |
| Posted by: Retsuka Jul 30 2007, 01:28 AM |
| the only difference between the FD and AP1 will be start up speed. im sure AP1 will edge the FD out but... you never know unless you compare 2 FT's. |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Jul 30 2007, 03:00 AM |
| hmm...true that, thanx for the answer =D, i might get the s2000 after i FT my FD otherwise a 86 |
| Posted by: ZanbatouZanbatou Jul 30 2007, 10:56 AM |
| The s2k was ranked 4th overall then it over took the FC for 3rd place last week. So yeah looks like S2K>FD |
| Posted by: DamienWolf Jul 30 2007, 08:25 PM | ||
With this analogy, are you saying that the FC actually outranks the FD by a bit? Sorry I know nothing about the Japanese stats. |
| Posted by: Ben Jul 30 2007, 09:47 PM | ||
Yes. For NOW, the FC3S ranks higher than the FD3S. |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Jul 30 2007, 10:22 PM | ||
well, since the game hasnt came out for very long, it is pretty hard to guess which car is best overall so what present rank is the FD?? |
| Posted by: Ben Jul 30 2007, 10:32 PM | ||
5th, right behind the FC in 4th. |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Jul 30 2007, 10:35 PM |
| thats not too bad...... btw is the FD single turbo or twin turbo?? or can u choose?? |
| Posted by: Ben Jul 30 2007, 10:57 PM | ||
mm.. The FD starts off twin turbo. I think you have the option to upgrade to a single turbo in Engine later on. I haven't got one though so I can't be sure. |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Jul 31 2007, 12:24 AM |
| in idas3, twin turbo was better in terms of wall recovery but single turbo was better if u can manage to stay off the walls right?? so whats the difference in id4 then?? |
| Posted by: Ben Jul 31 2007, 12:48 AM | ||
IMO it won't matter at all, there is penalty cancel for a reason.. I doubt turbo choice will matter in this game, they've eliminated alot of things that used to occurr in the previous versions.. |
| Posted by: jkp Jul 31 2007, 05:32 AM |
| uhm in idv3 and below, we could select our BGM right but here in AS4 i can't seem to find the bgm select buton for some reason? is there any BGM select or is it gone for this version? |
| Posted by: cosmoz Jul 31 2007, 05:34 AM |
| Cant select it.. its random for each course.. |
| Posted by: Phoenix_Cypher_K1 Jul 31 2007, 05:43 AM |
| It's not random. It's FIXED to each course and condition (and in the case of two songs - opponents on LotS). I'll list them: Lake Akina Day - Let's Go, Come On. Lake Akina Night - Go Beat Crazy Myogi Day - Speed Car Myogi Night - Fly to Me to The Moon and Back Akagi Day - Revolution Akagi Night - We'll See Heaven Akina Day - All Around Akina Night - Eldorado Akina Night (vs Bunta ONLY) - The Fire's on Me Irohazaka Day - Raising Hell Irohazaka Night - Space Love Tsukuba Day - No Control Tsukuba Night - Forever Young Tsukuba Night (vs Project D ONLY) - Rider of the Sky. |
| Posted by: cosmoz Jul 31 2007, 05:59 AM |
| oh.. i hear different songs everything.. mistaken it for random.. haha my bad.. |
| Posted by: U2- Jul 31 2007, 06:09 AM | ||
wow thats cool man...btw...where can i download these songs? |
| Posted by: jkp Jul 31 2007, 06:49 AM |
| well you could download these songs in torrent form.. just search initial d soundtracks torrents in google.. |
| Posted by: Phoenix_Cypher_K1 Jul 31 2007, 06:59 AM |
| Uh...head over to the Initial D Music section...there's a topic there just for the songs... |
| Posted by: Silfa Jul 31 2007, 08:35 AM |
| i've heard raising hell on tsukuba during my TA's before, are you sure there isn't more then one song on each track? |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Jul 31 2007, 03:54 PM |
| can u select BGM when doing in store battles |
| Posted by: Phoenix_Cypher_K1 Jul 31 2007, 04:29 PM | ||
Are you sure? Because so far I've always gotten the SAME songs as per list.  Whenever I TA Akina Downhill during Day I ALWAYS get All Around.And to answer the poster above me, the answer is no  |
| Posted by: Sil80Drifter Jul 31 2007, 04:36 PM |
| can u select BGM at all? it just play default music for me.. and it doesnt say View Change to change BGM or anything like that like ver. 1 2 and 3 |
| Posted by: sannin Jul 31 2007, 05:19 PM |
| i cant even hear the bgm for as4 at super arcade cuz the maximum tune machines' sound over powers the as4 sound. |
| Posted by: ac101 Jul 31 2007, 05:32 PM | ||
time attack, LOTS, and battle bgm for courses are all different... it maybe forever young for LOTS and different BMGs for TA and battles... |
| Posted by: Phoenix_Cypher_K1 Jul 31 2007, 05:51 PM |
Hm, need to check on that.  |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Jul 31 2007, 07:28 PM |
| r u still able to blind attack{turn off headlights}? |
| Posted by: MAFD Jul 31 2007, 07:36 PM | ||
yep but you have to hold the start button down a bit longer, around 5-6 seconds I would say. But when you wana turn them back on just press the start button and it will turn on instantly. |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Jul 31 2007, 07:47 PM |
| ic thanks..................... |
| Posted by: Retsuka Jul 31 2007, 08:03 PM | ||
this time it works better than before aswell... u can see the car still but its harder than before. |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Jul 31 2007, 08:07 PM | ||
if the car is black can u still see it or is it gone from the face of the earth |
| Posted by: Ben Jul 31 2007, 08:08 PM |
| Has anyone done lights off in Myogi? Wow.. I battled with my lights off the whole way and lead the whole way... SO hard to see. |
| Posted by: MAFD Jul 31 2007, 11:05 PM |
| Yeah lights off is done way better than ver3. In ver3 if the machine brightness setting was set a bit high you could still see everything even when you turn the lights off. In AS4 it's actually pitch black and only spots are illuminated by the street lamps. By the way which tuning category help the understeer: suspension or body reinforcement? The first 2 steps of suspension are upgrading brake pads and hoses, which I thought shouldn't help the understeer? |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 1 2007, 12:28 AM |
| Body helps the most, strut braces stiffen up the car etc. Roll cage is awesome for reducing it. But suspension reinforces those componenets. Both help MAJORLY. |
| Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 1 2007, 12:45 AM | ||
the car is only visible when the street lights hit your car.. otherwise you completely in stealth haha |
| Posted by: ?wha? Aug 1 2007, 01:15 AM | ||
isn't there running ninja? damn... that song suits tsukuba so well on tatsu's vid.... |
| Posted by: Silfa Aug 1 2007, 01:46 AM |
| tatsu's videos are always great. he's a pretty fast driver. too bad lune doesn't post new videos. |
| Posted by: drft Aug 1 2007, 08:17 AM | ||
Can I get a link for tatsu's vids  ? |
| Posted by: Silfa Aug 1 2007, 08:32 AM |
| https://youtube.com/user/TATSUevo |
| Posted by: drft Aug 1 2007, 08:57 AM | ||
well, my jaw just dropped on the first corner. |
| Posted by: U2- Aug 1 2007, 09:23 AM | ||
thanks for sharing ^^ tatsu really godlike |
| Posted by: stageshow Aug 1 2007, 05:36 PM |
| i was wondering how come japan have online play and America dusnt |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 1 2007, 06:07 PM |
| well it just came out in america and not even our rankings r up |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 1 2007, 10:22 PM | ||
the game came out a bit earlier than expected thus no online game play, but they might patch it up (i hope) soon, so we too get the online gaming sensation XD |
| Posted by: darkpaladinzz Aug 1 2007, 10:24 PM |
| do you know how expensive it is to have online-national play?? |
| Posted by: stageshow Aug 2 2007, 12:57 AM |
| im think its the same as the regular play (I HOPE) |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 2 2007, 01:39 AM |
| ac101, braja and benji. how much do u guys weigh? (kg wise) |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 2 2007, 01:55 AM | ||
lol? About 80 man.. why? bry is about 65.. |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 2 2007, 02:04 AM | ||
lol its a ask a question and get an answer thread... i was just asking  .66 here xD. |
| Posted by: drft Aug 2 2007, 02:07 AM | ||
O_o. I'm 60 atm i think. |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 2 2007, 02:42 AM | ||
idiot. and bry, sif man, you're a fat c*nt. |
| Posted by: Kazuki Aug 2 2007, 02:48 AM |
| lol I'm 63 atm. When I went to a gokart track with a friend I told him no matter what he wouldn't beat me since he weighs 60lbs more than me since our skills are pretty much dead even. And ya know what, he was at least 1 second behind me the entire time. (indoor gokarts that do 55mph down the back strech) |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 2 2007, 02:51 AM | ||
lol bry weighs 20kg's less than me and I still smash him gokarting.. what does that say for his skill.. |
| Posted by: drft Aug 2 2007, 02:55 AM |
Last time we went I was faster  And you've been gokarting since you were little, Ive only been probably 15-20 times. I'm not that fat =( |
| Posted by: Kazuki Aug 2 2007, 02:56 AM |
| I'm not sure XP you tell me ^^ I was faster than him on some runs because I have faster learning curve than my friend did though. by our third race I had dropped my times from a 35.3 to a 34.1, which is still fast (we had the last run of the night, and i was 5th on the daily top) I think average for a first timer was a 37, and my first time around I was breaking mid 35's average, with my friend just a second behind (it was his 2nd time) I think it also depends on the karts themselves. The ones at the track we go to are effected more by weight since they only have about 10 hp I belive....maybe they had 15.... Anyways, slippery tracks are NOT fun when you're trying to get the fastest times. those karts would powerslide the second you hit the gas going around a turn haha. |
| Posted by: marusho_sakamoto Aug 2 2007, 06:43 AM |
| guys.... can a stock car win against the ff (IDAS4): 86T (Takumi Fujiwara - Akina DH) FC (Ryosuke Takahasi - Akagi DH/Akina DH Wet) MR2 (Kai Kogashiwa - Irohazaka DH) S2000 & BNR34 (Mountain Gods - Tsukuba OB/IB) please help me! tuning the parts take long.... |
| Posted by: Phoenix_Cypher_K1 Aug 2 2007, 06:49 AM |
| Yes. A stock car can win against all of the opponents you speak of. |
| Posted by: cosmoz Aug 2 2007, 06:51 AM |
| Well, i still cant defeat kai and the R34.. i wonder whats wrong.. kai just totally pwn me at the jumps.. (although i use the jumps as well.) |
| Posted by: drft Aug 2 2007, 06:58 AM | ||
I'm sure it can win, it depends on the driver though. It would probably start getting near impossible after difficulty 2 or 3 though. |
| Posted by: Phoenix_Cypher_K1 Aug 2 2007, 07:08 AM |
| I won't say it's near impossible. I beat Kai and Takumi @ Tsukuba at difficulty 4 (LotS 5th round) with a stock RX-8. But as someone said earlier, it heavily depends on skill (and in the case of Takumi, some blocking) @cosmoz - Full gas the jumps. Yes you heard me, full gas them. Jumping at 80+, you should actually be PASSING him at the jumps. XD |
| Posted by: U2- Aug 2 2007, 07:16 AM | ||
try jump at 90++ thats FUN! |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 2 2007, 07:16 AM |
| stock cars can beat anyone during first 3, 4 times of LOTS... all depends on driver and their knowledge of the techniques in the game... i used my friend's stock GDB to beat 3rd LOTS bunta by 50m... i crashed at cp3 badly...lmao |
| Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 2 2007, 07:22 AM |
| in VER.4.. do you just take the jumps like a normal turn? for some reason.. the jump slows me down even if i go full gas like everyone else |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 2 2007, 07:25 AM | ||
No you weren't and I wasn't having a go, I smash anyone I go there with |
| Posted by: drft Aug 2 2007, 07:26 AM |
| Oh ok, I was taking a guess that it would be harder for stock car by then, havn't tried it myself. |
| Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 2 2007, 07:33 AM |
| parts are a big difference in ver. 4.. well bigger then ver. 3 |
| Posted by: darkpaladinzz Aug 2 2007, 07:11 PM | ||
i dont mean consumer side..i mean for the arcade to have that option..national battles needs to be hooked up to the interent you know..its different from in store battling |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 2 2007, 10:46 PM |
| what happens after u finsihed LoTs once?? does the difficulty change to 2?? and if the difficulty is higher?? do u get more points?? |
| Posted by: kenshizan Aug 2 2007, 11:02 PM |
| hi everyone...bow bow...i'm new today just played initial D arcade stage 4 in my life...how lame and out date is that...hehe...im so excited i even sign up for this forum today...hope to learn some tricks from all d experts here.. i want to ask, why my car go slow whenever i turn my wheels,  im driving a black infinty RX7 FD3S  ...what is the best way to learn this car well? is my dream car dats why i choose it when i first played..hehe..  kenshizan signin out...cheers |
| Posted by: J]-[UN Aug 2 2007, 11:03 PM |
| How can you use a stock car to play the 3rd round of LOTS? Shouldn't be stock anymore right? |
| Posted by: kenshizan Aug 2 2007, 11:16 PM | ||
what is 3rd round LOTS? I've cleared lake akina out of luck but i notice my speed is very weird at each time i move my streering wheels... |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 2 2007, 11:42 PM | ||
I have a stock sil on my 4th time round  |
| Posted by: kenshizan Aug 2 2007, 11:47 PM | ||
hi benji, stock sil is what? anyway you know what's LOTS mention by J]-[UN? cheers |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 3 2007, 12:17 AM | ||
I will warn you on the next random question you ask. |
| Posted by: drft Aug 3 2007, 12:34 AM |
| Err your a dumbkent Ben. Kid got confused cos he thought the person who answered after him was replying to his question. LOTS = Legend of the streets, each time you beat it, the difficulty increases. Stock sil = stock s13 silvia or sileighty You lose speed when you are turning wide corners because thats how it works in real life. You need to downshift and keep bouncing off the rev limiter with alot of those corners, just take note of what speed your doing in your higher gear, compared to the the limiter of 4th or 3rd, and choose the right gear to go fastest. |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 3 2007, 12:45 AM | ||
nah u. The rando asks f**kin random questions in ever thread. diepls |
| Posted by: kenshizan Aug 3 2007, 01:00 AM | ||
how sure are you ben? i might be new but if i practice just like you all i'll out run you someday..huhh! now i know how to play this site... thanks drft for the answer..i owe you one ans... so do you mean if I keep driving like a real car i'll be safe? how do you best control a RX-7 inft FD3S. I've read other page, bout what "penalty cancel" does it work for my car if when my speed drop i do the lift, tap, step? |
| Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 3 2007, 01:56 AM |
| as much as i hate to admit it.. yes i was wrong about just gassing off in a corner. brakes give you better speeds |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 3 2007, 03:28 PM | ||||||||||||
everyones new to IDAS4, its only just came out
o_O its not really playing....rather using.....
u dont owe anyone answers, just ask questions that u wish to be answered, otherwise u'll be owing everyone a hella lot of answers
not exactly real life driving (as in safe driving) more like racing driving so if u turn, u lose speed, but dont drive like an old granny who has to tap brake and lose lik 60km/hr just to get into a turn
just drive, and u'll find a way to contrl the rx7, its kinda hard to tell u how to drive a car....coz all u need to do is drive
penatly cancel is when u are slow on acceleration, u let go of gas pedal for a millisecond and tap brake softly and quickly and go back on gas pedal, that restarts the acceleration |
| Posted by: Hachi_Roku Aug 3 2007, 07:42 PM |
| I'm just curious but I was wondering what a good starter car is? In addition, between the R32, R34 and the newer Impreza GDBF or w/e whis is better for a noob at D4 like myself?(sure theyre strange choices but ive never driven a Skyline in in V3 and wanted a change) |
| Posted by: AroRuA Aug 3 2007, 08:01 PM |
| im just wondering when i start id4 and get a new car, should i eject my card after every play? or should i do it sometime after i win a bit |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 4 2007, 12:17 AM |
| @ hachi_roku, all the cars are good, so just choose what u like best @arorua yes u should eject ur card every play even if u plan to continue play, just eject, put money in and play again, this way u will visit the customization shop more often |
| Posted by: icedagger Aug 4 2007, 01:06 PM |
| Hi. Just a couple of questions: 1. Are there any other "techniques" other than penalty cancel? 2. Does 5in4out and feinting work? Thanks.  |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 4 2007, 01:14 PM | ||
1 + 2 = yes. Thus, I am great. |
| Posted by: icedagger Aug 4 2007, 01:18 PM |
aight. At least I won't like a complete idiot if I use feint.  Thanks! |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 4 2007, 01:49 PM | ||
feint doesnt work just so you know... |
| Posted by: icedagger Aug 4 2007, 01:54 PM |
| Huh, well you did say it works in your previous post. O_o |
| Posted by: Kazuki Aug 4 2007, 02:13 PM |
| ^^ benji got pwned Or maybe, did you mean that 5in4 out works, but failed to realize he also asked if feinting works? |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 4 2007, 02:36 PM |
| I failed life in general ^^^ f**k YOU BRAI! No I never own myself! |
| Posted by: BDDEE@ Aug 4 2007, 05:32 PM |
| on akina uphill and downhill, is it faster to wall rape the RHOD and use penalty cancel instead of going around the corner clean... im assuming wall tech because of better exit and lining but im just checking xD |
| Posted by: Hachi_Roku Aug 4 2007, 06:24 PM |
| Should I be concerned about my technique if in a corner my car suddenly jerks outside? Or is it a sign to slow down? Its not really a big issue or anything, it just causes me to lose concentration a bit, especially when it happens on Iro... |
| Posted by: rhan Aug 4 2007, 07:52 PM |
| question on irohazaka: how do you wall rape the course for better exit speed? |
| Posted by: MAFD Aug 5 2007, 05:57 PM | ||
Turn really really early, as in if you were playing ver3 and you turned then you would have reversed yourself. Your nose should hit the wall and you will go around the corner and depending on your mods, you may understeer and hit the outside wall. But just penalty cancel and gas it to the next turn. I like shifting to 3rd just as I turn in. By the way don't turn too early you can still reverse yourself as I have done a few times. You should try it out to figure out the best turn in point but just know that you turn in way earlier than in ver3. |
| Posted by: kenshizan Aug 5 2007, 06:09 PM | ||
can there be such things like parts upgrade for this?..haha i got a question 1)do i upgrade my RX7 all the 7step engine first or i go accordingly like step 1 for engine, then suspension, then air flow..after i finish all step 1 then i do step 2 engine and again in linear.. what's the fastest way to make upgrade? 2)when i turn at corner then i exit the corner my front wheels always lock/got jamed...what could have gone wrong?i try the PC..doesn't seems to work...people watch behind me laugh..damm frusss... |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 5 2007, 06:23 PM |
| i dont see why u would wallrape RHOD, but sure..w/e floats ur boat...=) |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 5 2007, 11:33 PM | ||
Question 1: just upgrade whatever u want, its what makes every car unique because everyone has different steps upgraded and the quickest way to upgrade is to eject ur card each time u play Question 2: i think thats understeering, try a different approach when turning |
| Posted by: -.- Aug 6 2007, 09:43 PM |
| so.. whats the best way to avoid understeer while still managing to turn at a good speed? |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 6 2007, 10:21 PM |
| like i said, try a different approach and by that, i mean a different line, different angle etc. u just gotta experiment |
| Posted by: Chocolate Panzer Aug 7 2007, 03:38 AM |
| more of a visual question.. do they have the volk CE28 in silver or white?   what are the current work wheel line ups do they have? thanks guys. |
| Posted by: kenshizan Aug 7 2007, 10:45 PM |
| hi everyone, good day to all of ya.. i got a few questions..sorry la but im so new.. 1)the fomula is so complex to experiment. when i try [lift gas>>quick brake>>quickgas] again the understeer seems less but i think i turn too bloody much ady..huhh! so when is the best time to do the turn lest say for example a sharp U turn?in the 3 step i just mention after which do i turn my steering?i usually turn after the 3rd step. 2)i forgot how many plays do i get from an ID card?does all my 3 cars include the plays times provided?if i go into battle does it minus my play times too?all i know if i battle now sure accumulate lose count..hehe 3)if someone come up to me and asked for my card..do i let him play?what do i gain or lose if i lend my card for stranger to play it? |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 7 2007, 11:27 PM | ||
1) try turning slowly, like little at a time, its should be similar to real life driving, and for the penalty cancel, u normally do that after the turn, to cancel the stall 2) u start with 150 plays until renewal, each time u eject ur card, it counts as one play and yes all 150 plays count for all 3 cars 3) well that really depends if u can trust the person Gains: more points, and its free (unless ur paying for him) Lose: game play |
| Posted by: ?wha? Aug 8 2007, 06:21 AM | ||
yes I'm pretty sure they do they're on my MR2 if i remember correctly... or were they enkei's? either way. |
| Posted by: -.- Aug 8 2007, 12:37 PM |
| Could someone tell me what InazumaR is doing on the turns? Does he just full throttle and downshift? or is he using pc ? Its kinda hard to tell. Thanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Agb9B4sovg&mode=related&search= |
| Posted by: Chocolate Panzer Aug 8 2007, 01:03 PM | ||
Volk Racing CE28's. wow.. if they do have it in white then wow.. im looking forward on fitting this on my car. |
| Posted by: HellGuard99 Aug 8 2007, 03:28 PM |
| Today i saw some dude in my local arcade with a S13 Arcade Stage 4 card, where the hell did he find a place with IDAS4?!! Here in Brooklyn, New York or around here. |
| Posted by: ott Aug 8 2007, 06:25 PM |
| S2K had the CE28N in bronze and silver. You can get all the information here: http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.wikihouse.com/iniDas/index.php%3FFrontPage&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSKYLINE%2BGT-R%2BV%25EF%25BD%25A5specII%2BN%25C3%25BCr%2B%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dnetscape-pp%26rls%3Dcom.netscape:en-US Run it through google translate. |
| Posted by: Chocolate Panzer Aug 8 2007, 06:59 PM | ||
million thanks bro. |
| Posted by: kenshizan Aug 8 2007, 07:01 PM |
| has anyone played with steering stiffness of 9?lol i tried that y'day and my arms was like pulling out even for lake akina TA.. can i think can built my arms muscles then..lol i better stick to my usual 3.. |
| Posted by: MAFD Aug 9 2007, 02:16 AM | ||
Or you can just click on the 'english' link at the top right. Thanks heaps! Very useful as it lists all parts for both visual and engine for every car. |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 9 2007, 10:55 PM |
| 1.Does the Akina Gutters make your time faster in ID4 2.In Tsukba do you loose alot of speed when you go to far in the side dicthes |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 10 2007, 04:57 AM |
| i still suck at akina, only runing 3'05, so cant really say anything about gutters... but for tsukuba, if u go too far, ur still gonna go hit the wall, so yes u do lose speed plus accel... i manage to run a 49 without going into ditches |
| Posted by: Sly Aug 10 2007, 07:07 AM |
| i have a question, is the silvia spec-r or the s2k better? |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 10 2007, 07:27 AM |
| its obviously s2k overall... |
| Posted by: crow Aug 10 2007, 08:11 AM | ||
| i have a question ihave been seeing posts that states
is this true? it's quite unbelievable,.. tnx! |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 10 2007, 10:40 AM |
| that thing has been around since the time of v1...=\ if u chooseto believe it, then go ahead and be a noob... if u dont believe it, then go ahead and flame whoever said that...=D |
| Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 10 2007, 10:45 AM |
| does every car get to choose between a turbo, supercharger, or engine swap at step 7.. or is that just the AE86? |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 10 2007, 10:48 AM |
| not every car has that... only certain cars have a special stage 7 option for u to choose from, ie AE86T, AE86L... |
| Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 10 2007, 10:49 AM |
| so the altezza does not get a turbo or a supercharger? |
| Posted by: Hiro-kun Aug 10 2007, 12:54 PM | ||
It probably just gets engine balancing like most other cars, unless in V3 it had a turbo/super charger option, it isnt going to have it in V4 |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 10 2007, 03:12 PM | ||
dude.. thats even worst than my colors make cars 3 seconds faster thing lmao. |
| Posted by: megamonkey@hotmail Aug 11 2007, 06:44 AM |
| does IDAS 4 have that name thing where u put in a naughty word and it comes out as sega? i'd try but i don't wana waste five $ |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 11 2007, 12:57 PM | ||
nope it has a different version, since we have some rather disturbed people around here they tried putting weird names and all it does is clear the name and make u choose another name. and yes it can clear it as many times as it wants till u choose a reasonable name within the 80 or so seconds it gives u. if you cant put a name in that time it gets changed to 'PLAYER' not 'SEGA'. |
| Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 11 2007, 05:39 PM |
| will turbochargers give your car turbo lag like in real life? |
| Posted by: Silfa Aug 11 2007, 07:16 PM |
| I have a question, can you delete a sticker thats on a car already? I don't like the emperor sticker anymore, so if I paid another 10k pts will it delete? retsuka I need your wisdom. |
| Posted by: h4bpeps Aug 11 2007, 07:27 PM |
| Anybody here know if pittsburgh have id4 already? please somebody help! I'm stuck here for a few months and need my id drugs! hahaha |
| Posted by: brian_infinispirit Aug 11 2007, 09:28 PM |
| just out of curiosity... is facing bunta in LOTS for the first time treated as a bonus stage (just like in v3)?... or i really have to beat him to clear LOTS?... as of now i have a ton of insecurities on akina (just akina, as in) since i couldn't even crack sub-3'20 consistently... |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 11 2007, 10:26 PM |
| brian - its a bonus for the 1st time thru LOTS, its free and u dont have to beat him in order to clear LOTS the 1st cycle thru |
| Posted by: MomoChan Aug 12 2007, 12:32 AM | ||
Yep. Installed or aftermarket turbos will lag lots, especially when you pile in on the engine/drivetrain tunes without paying attention to the other aspects. I learned that the hard way when I was battling Kai. Because of the lag, he always beats me at the startup. |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 12 2007, 03:33 AM |
| cjb: i dont think you can, either that or it hasnt been discorverd how to return an exterior part back to stock once you have purchased a piece. i do know how ever, and this goes for all exterior parts, once you choose something lets stay on stickers, if you choose emperor u will be charged 10k and u get the sticker (the tick appears) if you then change to speed stars or something next time round the tick will disapear off emperor and go on speed stars, this means that u dont get to keep the exterior parts you previously purchased. ---- yes bunta is free and u only have to ever beat him once. momochan: that is the most worthless comment i have read in this thread. |
| Posted by: icedagger Aug 12 2007, 07:48 AM |
| @Retsuka: Regarding Momo's post, somebody did tell me something similar. The guy told me not to upgrade my engine right away because it would lag like hell unless I had my other components upgraded. So far I'm at step 6 and I'm not experiencing any ill effects though. I'll see if upgrading to step 7 will cause any lag next time I go to the arcade. |
| Posted by: MomoChan Aug 12 2007, 08:22 AM | ||
*sigh* Worthless to you, perhaps, since you're more experienced than I am. Try putting a lot of Engine/Drivetrain tunes in one of your 4WD cars while ignoring the other things and you might get where I'm coming from. Point is, I answered a question nobody bothered to. Let's just leave it at that. |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 12 2007, 10:34 AM |
| i did that with my r34... all step 7 of engine/drivetrain before everything else...nothing happens... engine/drivetrain only affects top speed... intake affects acceleration... suspension affects speed lost during turns... body affects speed lost during body contact... ecu affects understeer... |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 12 2007, 12:11 PM | ||
is an evo 4, gdbf and evo 3 good enough for ya lol? lag= all in your mind... plus if you do 'lag' why dont u just PC out of it lol... icedagger: the guy was wrong then =.=". |
| Posted by: sannin Aug 12 2007, 01:32 PM | ||
is that the proven effects of each section? |
| Posted by: Phoenix_Cypher_K1 Aug 12 2007, 06:11 PM |
| Actually my friend was talking about this but I'll get a verification to see if it's possible. If your character avatar has a frame/specs...is it possible to remove it? |
| Posted by: Fuzz Aug 12 2007, 07:30 PM |
| yes u can remove them like u do with hairstyle and clothing I had choices of different glasses |
| Posted by: AroRuA Aug 12 2007, 10:32 PM |
| does turning off your headlights when vsing comps do anything? |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 12 2007, 10:47 PM | ||
yes, this works more effectively than id3
im pretty sure everyone knows that >.<" its not like u'll have lik 2 spoilers but it would be cool to have like more than 2 stickers XD like have them cut up like they did in the anime <(X-X)> btw for tuning, im planning to tune part 1 of each one than go part 2 of each one and so forth, is that smart?? or is there a better way of tuning?? im currently driving a FD FYI |
| Posted by: AroRuA Aug 12 2007, 10:59 PM |
| in what way makes turning off your headlights effective?, just wondering =p |
| Posted by: Fuzz Aug 12 2007, 11:29 PM |
| for vs games. Lights off in ver4 is more effective as its alot harder to see when lights are off. try it and see (press and hold start for 6 secs to turn off and press again to turn it on again) |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 13 2007, 02:52 AM |
| this time it's like pitch black, not like id3 where u can still see the car |
| Posted by: puds Aug 13 2007, 05:53 AM | ||
same thing happened to my GC8 ( i maxxed engine 1st ) and 4th gear was so sloooow.. so i cannot help but to agree.. |
| Posted by: MomoChan Aug 13 2007, 08:30 AM |
| I'm about to finish my first round of LOTS, so I'll just ask this to people in the know... ...If you beat LOTS once, then pull it back to difficulty 0 then beat it again, will the next difficulty level still unlock? |
| Posted by: Phoenix_Cypher_K1 Aug 13 2007, 08:54 AM |
| Yes, the next difficulty level will still get unlocked. So you just need to beat LotS 10 times at any difficulty you want to have all 10 difficulties open. |
| Posted by: AroRuA Aug 13 2007, 12:12 PM |
| is the point of having higher difficulty to make the game more challenging? and also what does fr, ff, mr stand for? |
| Posted by: icedagger Aug 13 2007, 03:49 PM |
| fr - front engine, rear wheel drive ff - front engine, front wheel drive mr - middle engine, rear wheel drive. |
| Posted by: MomoChan Aug 13 2007, 05:20 PM | ||
That's great. The Project D guys are already a handful for someone like me in Difficulty 0... I don't fancy getting stuck with them in harder levels on account of that just like with IDAS3. Thanks for the info. ^o^ |
| Posted by: Phoenix_Cypher_K1 Aug 13 2007, 05:40 PM | ||
Higher difficulty = faster CPUs. So yeah.... |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 13 2007, 09:50 PM |
| could you choose to trade ur map for a cup of water |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 13 2007, 10:49 PM | ||||
yea i agree, better to put the difficulty back on zero instead of wasting money trying to beat the same guy with a higher difficulty anyway can someone plz answer my question from the previous page??
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| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 13 2007, 10:51 PM | ||
i do not beleive so. i think its just on or off. |
| Posted by: ?wha? Aug 14 2007, 04:38 AM |
| Chaos: judging by most people's attitude towards tuning they tend to go all on engine, then exhaust, then electrical and lastly suspensions and body. personal preference... I like to keep engine a bit higher than the rest (hate the understeer) |
| Posted by: BDDEE@ Aug 14 2007, 04:55 AM |
| yes do 1 on each then 2 on each otherwise you will have great top speed with crap accel and alot of understeer |
| Posted by: MomoChan Aug 14 2007, 08:40 AM | ||
Consider these problems when thinking of how to tune: ~If the car seems to lack power, add a bit more on Engine, Intake/Exhaust, and Electronics. ~If you suffer too much from understeer and premature power loss from taking corners and unorthodox shortcuts (like the gutters and jumps), then Suspension and bodywork will do you good. An FD corners good, but it can always use more power, so maybe a balanced approach is best. |
| Posted by: crow Aug 14 2007, 08:56 AM |
| what do you think can i do to make my cappa's accel higher? or is capa's accel really that crappy than other cars... does it depend on the tuning? |
| Posted by: MomoChan Aug 14 2007, 09:01 AM | ||
Try tuning the Engine and Electronics at an equal point. Since the Capp is an NA, I'm sure it won't lag, but don't leave out the other aspects too. Kei cars aren't really known for their power... hence the need for power tunes. |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 14 2007, 11:07 AM |
| LOL...NA wont lag?? hahahahahaha... plz dont compare real life to IDAS4...lol tuning...let me say this once...i'll even give an example.. if u tune all of engine/drivetrain 1st, before everything else, it'll be useless.. y would it be useless? because engine/drivetrain affects the top speed of the car. even if u have a VERY high top speed from gaining all step 7 of engine tuning, without the other steps of tuning to support it, it'll mean shit because without a good acceleration, u'll nvr even reach the top speed to begin with, so whats the point? so the best way to tune a car, ANY and EVERY car, in the game, is to do each step in a balanced manner...so chaos, ur method of tuning is perfect saying understeer will be all gone from tuning this and this is just pointless, because it still comes down to the driver's knowledge of how to understeer cancel and penalty cancel. |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 14 2007, 01:29 PM | ||
How can this be!!!!!!!!!! |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 14 2007, 04:31 PM |
| oh okay, thanx guys <(^-^)> i always tend to like balancing out in all the games i play >.<" |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 14 2007, 06:02 PM |
| Hey all i have another question hows the tune set up like i heared evry 3 play i get upgrade in engine then body.But for the engine does that mean u can upgrade ur car by adding upgrades to give better handling. thanks |
| Posted by: Hiro-kun Aug 14 2007, 10:02 PM | ||
Yea you upgrade the suspension for that. |
| Posted by: brina&kyla Aug 15 2007, 02:23 AM |
| I want to ask about those that i see with like 0-0-0-0-0 or 7-2-3-4-2 things... I know this is for the tune of the car, but could someone expand this, like what corresponds to the first number, second, etc.. Is it like engine, tires, suspension, brakes, ecu? I haven't actually played v4 yet, neither did i see or touch a cab firsthand... |
| Posted by: D.K Aug 15 2007, 03:56 AM |
| Hey guys, I'm thinking of making a card (E9). I have a few questions 1. To full tune a car you just keep upgrading the engine and parts? 2.If i do this does that mean when the car is full tune. It will look like other full tune E9? If not how do you make it look different? ummm yeh sorry about the noob question. I'm really confused about the upgrading system. Oh yeh one more question once you're in-store battle mode can i turn that off after my battle? Thanks for your helps |
| Posted by: puds Aug 15 2007, 04:31 AM | ||||
1st number: Engine and Drivetrain 2nd number: Intake and Exhaust 3rd number: Suspension 4th number: Body 5th number: Electronics
1. Yes. 2. Not excactly. The exterior parts like wheels, bumpers, etc, are so many that the chances of two cars being exactly alike would be very slim. |
| Posted by: brina&kyla Aug 15 2007, 05:53 AM | ||
Thx for the info... Whoa... I got 3 of them right... 1,3 and 5 |
| Posted by: puds Aug 15 2007, 06:43 AM |
| a question for FT guys: i seem to be the only one who cannot go past 147kmh(Tsukuba) at 4th gear (i have a 5-gear car).. and can you confirm if all of you has a max speed of 148kmh on the same gear?? and if you don't, what body mods did you get?? i have a theory but i am still waiting for more data before i proceed.. |
| Posted by: DamienWolf Aug 15 2007, 06:56 AM | ||
I have a theory too. My S2K reaches 148 kph at my 5th gear. I was thinking it was the course car because of this. Any other thoughts? |
| Posted by: puds Aug 15 2007, 07:09 AM | ||
Tessa's FD also reaches 148.. as well as several videos that i have watched on youtube.. and according to the http://initial-d.info/perf/v4/index.jsp, GC8 should be the 3rd fastest in tsukuba OB dry.. hmm.. something weird is going on.. |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 15 2007, 02:15 PM |
| nother srry i am curouse and havent played v4 How much does it cost to play |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 15 2007, 02:38 PM |
| ive seen not all cars go to 148km on tsukuba. same with top speed on akina its like 177 for the ae86 but other cars its 176... |
| Posted by: D.K Aug 15 2007, 03:36 PM |
| Thanks Puds, one more question for you guys. You say the muffler, wheels and stuff will look different. How do you make it different? like are the exterior parts randomized and when it gives it to you, you either accept or decline? Thanks |
| Posted by: Fuzz Aug 15 2007, 05:37 PM |
| It gives you a screen to select different exterior mods to choose, a list of mufflers, a list of wheels etc and u can choose any 1 of them. Ryu Fujiwara, check out this page https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=30929 |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 15 2007, 08:10 PM | ||
where do u live because it depends where u go. different places have different prices |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 15 2007, 08:11 PM | ||
In cali i am waiting for a machine to show up in my area |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 15 2007, 08:21 PM | ||
what part of cali southrn, northern? LA, west covina, walnut? cause IDAS4 has already hit cali |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 15 2007, 08:27 PM | ||
Well LA arcades.and that one in Eagle rock where the mall is. |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 15 2007, 08:31 PM | ||
i kno the eagle rock doesnt have one. if ur ever around little tokyo theres an arcade there that has it. |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 15 2007, 08:54 PM |
| Thanks alot i guess i'm heading there 2morrow is it in english or jap and it is the one at the mall in lil tokyo |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 15 2007, 11:05 PM |
| yea the one at the little tokyo shoppin center |
| Posted by: Chocolate Panzer Aug 16 2007, 12:38 AM |
| just curious. for turbo cars, do the blow off valves makes a sound here in AS4 like in ver.3? if yes do they all sound the same? how does the racing engine and the supercharger sound like in game? |
| Posted by: puds Aug 16 2007, 01:06 AM | ||
some of them yes.. but in my case (GC8), it is VERY faint and you wont hear it unless you know it is there.. |
| Posted by: icedagger Aug 16 2007, 02:13 AM |
| The blow off valve sound for my skyline is pretty loud IMO. |
| Posted by: Chocolate Panzer Aug 16 2007, 03:36 AM |
| do all cars create back fires like when you shift down or release the gas?.. hehehe.. cant wait to play ver.4 for myself.. |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 16 2007, 05:42 AM |
| nope...only turbocharged cars (not sure with Skylines though) It will be sexy if my RX-8 spits fire from its double muffler!! |
| Posted by: Alv Aug 16 2007, 08:56 AM |
| bnr34 confirm got. and it's darn loud! probably the loudest for me. on par with evo3. -.- unlike my evo9 when u PC u cant hear a single thing. so much for turbo. lolz! |
| Posted by: Hachi_Roku Aug 16 2007, 09:40 AM |
| 32's got it. Sounds like the one off Initial D as well. |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 16 2007, 01:08 PM |
| how do u make fire shoot out from the muffler? |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 16 2007, 02:31 PM |
| Shift down, or any methods that make your car slow down... |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 16 2007, 04:03 PM | ||
can a stock do it or do u have to tune something specific. |
| Posted by: Hiro-kun Aug 16 2007, 07:29 PM | ||
You can either shift or rev your car. On the start up if you switch to the far angle view or whatever the hell its called and rev your engine and let it go, the BOV will go off and a small fireball will come out. Either than that, go misfire system on the Evo3 |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 16 2007, 07:34 PM |
| only a few selected cars can go up to 148 in 4th or 5th gear on tsukuba... just like how on akina, only a few can go up to 177... BOV sound only occurs on turbocharged cars...u will be able to hear it when u PC... |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 16 2007, 07:57 PM | ||
so u can do it by reving ur car at the start and with PCing. any other way of doing it. |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 16 2007, 11:05 PM |
| theres heaps of ways, including letting go of gas pedal |
| Posted by: AroRuA Aug 17 2007, 12:30 PM |
| what are the effects of a course being wet? i know that its more slippery and makes the car turn more but is there anything else? |
| Posted by: MAFD Aug 17 2007, 04:27 PM |
| I would say a wet course makes you understeer more, but not that snap sudden understeer thing. Just you feel your car sliding towards the outside more than dry. |
| Posted by: AroRuA Aug 17 2007, 06:24 PM |
| what factors come into play when you battle? does it mean people who can run fast times on a map can pass someone in battle easily or does blocking slow down their speed? |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 17 2007, 06:28 PM | ||
well with boost on ur times dont mean a thing because boost is way stong in AS4. but in boost off it comes down to tuning and technique. also i noticed that japanese cards differ from english cards. they have more spaces with writing. what are in those spaces. |
| Posted by: Fuzz Aug 17 2007, 06:43 PM |
| Had a match with someone on Akina, we both had the same times 3:07:xxx but as we didnt block each other or ram each other, he managed to gain the lead and I was just grinding his ass for half the map. but as you grinds someone's ass, his speed will be slower than yours and I just overtook him and won |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 17 2007, 06:56 PM |
i want to kno what they have that we dont.  they have more writing than we do. |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 17 2007, 07:20 PM | ||
I would like to add more on that.... The car will experience huge undesteer [just like DC2 in Akagi Wet in Ver2/EK9 at Akina Snow in ver3] Somehow... I feel that in-in-out is not suitable for Wet courses... |
| Posted by: BDDEE@ Aug 18 2007, 02:11 AM |
| erm, dc2 akagi wet in v2 ... understeer????? wtf have you been smoking |
| Posted by: m@tt Aug 18 2007, 03:43 AM |
| what can a person do if they know your key code and the numbers on the back??? |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 18 2007, 03:53 AM |
| Driver Key has something to do with the Internet Ranking... so it will affect the Internet Ranking, not YOUR Internet Ranking, but it's THE Internet Ranking The Access code however, it is believe that it's for Data Retrival purposes when someone encounter Error #603 or something... |
| Posted by: m@tt Aug 18 2007, 03:58 AM |
| is it something to worry about if peoples seen your card number ?? |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 18 2007, 04:01 AM |
| Up to you, you can even post it out as your Signature if you like it... It's better not to do so, if you doesn't want to see someone with a 1'34 in Akina or 2 minutes flat in Akina Lake in the Internet Rankings... |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 18 2007, 08:59 AM | ||
why does the japanese card have more things on it |
| Posted by: AroRuA Aug 18 2007, 03:02 PM |
| anybody know what takumi got for his upgraded engine if he did in the anime? im trying to make a replicate of his car =p |
| Posted by: hahariz Aug 18 2007, 03:21 PM |
| AE101 which would be racing engine. |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 18 2007, 03:24 PM | ||
they got different system they have internet battles, we dont they also got a different Internet Ranking and i tihnk the other stuff are just about something to do with the Internet battles, like what area your from or something >.<" @ arorua you will know which ones Tak (Takumi)'s engine when u tune the car because on the side of the engine, it will tell u where its from Eg. on my FD when i go through the list, it tells me who's part it is (Project D later part, Red Sun part etc) |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 18 2007, 06:02 PM |
| They can even put in their TEAM NAME... [see the box with 7 circles below the player's name] |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 18 2007, 06:37 PM |
| hey is the machine in lil tokyo eng or jap i am goin for sure 2morrow |
| Posted by: Mr. Shine Aug 18 2007, 07:22 PM | ||||
The Japanese card has the location where the card was purchased ("see the box with 7 circles below the player's name") and a player-selected home area corresponding to a prefecture of Japan. On my first card I chose Kanagawa, where I live. On my current card I chose Tochigi, because that is where Irohazaka is located. So clockwise it goes: -Driver name -Home area -Driver picture -No. of times cleared -Battle ranking -Internet ranking number thing -Place of purchase
You're either completely ignorant, mis/uninformed or an idiot. Or more likely, all three. There are no teams in Initial D Arcade Stage 4, not even in Japan. That box shows where you purchased the card. Can you even read the Japanese that explains that? This thread is for getting answers to questions - they should be correct answers, not a moron's guesswork.  |
| Posted by: BDDEE@ Aug 18 2007, 07:33 PM |
| of course there are as4 teams in japan, like team onihime and bl@ck |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 18 2007, 07:34 PM |
| Oh sorry for the moron acting/posting up there... >.< http://sega-initiald.net/p/ranking/2-1.html# Click the second box [towards the navigation bar] Then what's that? |
| Posted by: Mr. Shine Aug 18 2007, 07:52 PM |
| There are teams in the game, but they are not shown on the card. The kanji you were referring to is read as "hakkou" which is the place of issue. |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 18 2007, 07:56 PM |
| Since you have a Jap card, what are the requirements to meet to make the team Just being curious... |
| Posted by: Mr. Shine Aug 18 2007, 08:01 PM |
| Never looked into trying - my Japanese reading ability isn't close to being able to start up a team. That would require someone a little more fluent... I've not bothered with the Japanese internet rankings, but I assume there's an option to make a team on there with the ability to affiliate yourself with a team, too. Of course, I can't say for sure. |
| Posted by: kyu Aug 19 2007, 03:41 PM |
| just a question to all the members who have actually played AS4. how are you liking the game? please don't tell me the visual aspect of it (because i know it looks sexy), i'm more curious about the physics. please and thank you. |
| Posted by: hahariz Aug 19 2007, 03:57 PM |
| To be honest, I like the physics more than in V3. Much more real to me. And the pros in V3 wont stay pro and the weak getting bashed up again like in V2 progress to V3. Its a fresh start. Looking at the videos is deceiving, you have to play the game. |
| Posted by: xyeohts Aug 20 2007, 06:47 AM |
| R32... I am interested in this Car.. A friend is starting a team and i want to join in, So I have to make a new card.. was thinking of a R32... How is it like after FT? and during it? my EG6 crapped on build up.. But I still love it.. anyone has any idea to suggest? HOw is it like down Iro? |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 20 2007, 01:08 PM |
| just started playin 4 and i like the new psychics.The problem is when i play on akina and tsukuba on the corners i cant get my car to go on the gutters any suggestion on gettong my car on the gutters. |
| Posted by: MAFD Aug 20 2007, 02:26 PM |
| I don't think you can use the gutters on Akina anymore, but for Tsukuba you really need to turn early and hard otherwise you will miss the gutters. |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 20 2007, 09:53 PM |
| Nope i heard you can use the gutters to increase corner speed in akina so it still works |
| Posted by: FknAzN Aug 20 2007, 11:33 PM |
| How are ya supposed to take the gutters in tsubaka? Should you take EVERY gutter u see, or just specific ones? Or is it just very situational? |
| Posted by: StReEtWaLkeR Aug 20 2007, 11:37 PM |
| I was just wondering.....the consecutive snake turns on Tsukuba...I know you can't take em full throttle...normally I PC'd and get a lil understeer....I don't really go as fast as I want to be....I don't use the gutter but i stay close ...any suggestions?? |
| Posted by: MAFD Aug 20 2007, 11:41 PM |
| When I watched Retsuka play he takes the consec snakes at full throttle but he stays close to the inside so when understeer kicks in it drags him outwards and he just misses the outside wall. Then he PC's straight away and keeps going. |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 21 2007, 12:16 AM |
| yer, lol JEEG shits all over me on tsukuba now, hes pretty close to FT though. |
| Posted by: sannin Aug 21 2007, 01:36 AM |
| i take those s turns on tsukuba OB cp3 full throttle as well but only come out at about 124km/h. how fast do you guys come out of those s turns? |
| Posted by: longbow Aug 21 2007, 05:17 AM |
| sorry noob question: what is penalty cancel? |
| Posted by: xyeohts Aug 21 2007, 06:01 AM |
| Refer to other thread.. Its called Penalty Cancel.. Hit wall PC out.. Dab the brakes and accelerate.. Helps accelerate faster then hitting the wall and suffer Acceleration lost |
| Posted by: icedagger Aug 21 2007, 07:25 AM |
| Or, you can read the first post of this thread. The PC description is there also. |
| Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 21 2007, 07:57 AM |
| Sorry if this has been discussed before, but: Do you have to eject your card each play to tune? Or can you just continue and still be able to tune? |
| Posted by: Fuzz Aug 21 2007, 07:59 AM |
| u need to eject because tunes etc will only be offered when you choose not to continue with ur current game |
| Posted by: DamienWolf Aug 21 2007, 08:00 AM | ||
As long as you know the sequence, you can try to continue when you can and eject when you have to customize. Still, continuing is not an exact pattern. Its much better to eject every time. Here is the formula if you eject every time... Performance > Normal eject > Normal eject > Body Shop A > Avatar > Normal Eject > Performance > Body Shop B > Avatar > Normal eject > *repeat from start* |
| Posted by: Chocolate Panzer Aug 21 2007, 08:07 AM | ||
sweet.. is it the same pattern when you purchase a new card? hehe.. i'll have my first taste of V4 tomorrow.. are you playing tomorrow? |
| Posted by: DamienWolf Aug 21 2007, 08:28 AM | ||
When you purchase your card, keep ejecting until you hit your first "performance" custumization shop. You can follow the pattern from there. Im at mega everyday from 6pm onwards. |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 21 2007, 10:48 AM | ||
135-138+. and yes ejecting is the absolute best way to tune your card. |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 22 2007, 11:59 AM |
| I need tons of help i know this has nothin to do with v4 but how do i get an avatar on fourm |
| Posted by: Zoxak Aug 22 2007, 12:29 PM | ||
Go to 'My Controls' on the top, then find 'Edit Avatar Settings' on your left. |
| Posted by: xyeohts Aug 22 2007, 09:20 PM |
| just curious about PC-ing while cornering next to a car.. do i have to pc when i am actually next to him around the corner i was on the outside when he was bangning the wall? should i PC? |
| Posted by: P*K Aug 22 2007, 09:40 PM |
| I want to ask about PC also.... Sometimes when I PC, the speed stay the same... is it because of not releasing the gas totally? or not hitting the break deep enough? or not both? I need to PC it the 2nd or 3rd times to make it done... |
| Posted by: MAFD Aug 23 2007, 02:50 AM |
| You don't have to release the gas fully/brakes hard. All I do is very very rapidly release the gas while blipping the brakes with my left foot (blipping as in how you blip the throttle with heel-toe). You will instantly notice the difference if you were under acceleration penalty before you PC'd. |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 23 2007, 08:27 AM |
| just keep PCing until ur accel comes back...lmao |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 23 2007, 01:59 PM |
| Hey when i tune i see supercharger and turbo on the list can i choose to keep one when the othr comes up |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 23 2007, 02:18 PM |
| You choose only one of those. After you FT your car, you will not have the chance to see the performance upgrade shop anymore. |
| Posted by: Mr. Shine Aug 23 2007, 04:35 PM |
| For those who say individual ejects is the best way to tune your car, you're certainly wrong at least as far as Japan is concerned. I can't imagine that the English version would be much different. When playing pure LotS you can base your tuning strategy by races, not ejects. Follow the routine and eject as appropriate - it's based on races (at least in Japan), not ejects. I always play 3 games in a row and get the appropriate upgrade shop (according to the routine) as a result. |
| Posted by: P*K Aug 23 2007, 07:14 PM | ||||
oh? so the sequence will be changed into Body Kit1 > Body Kit2 > Body Kit1 is it?
Yeah... Jap.Ver & Eng.Ver are so different...... Ejecting card No battle lvl (rank) NO AURAA |
| Posted by: MAFD Aug 24 2007, 04:49 AM |
| Do vs matches count towards the 3 games eject thing? If so then it doesn't work here because I've had 10 games in a row before and I didn't get anything when I ejected. |
| Posted by: P*K Aug 24 2007, 08:27 AM |
| actually.... No.... you still need to eject the card to be counted as 1 play... if you win all the way, or continue if you lose, it still counted as 1 until you eject it.... |
| Posted by: Pen^2 Aug 24 2007, 08:37 AM |
| It's really annoying that we have to eject every 1 play if we want to tune up faster, I can't stand the loading time, ARG. |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 24 2007, 12:57 PM |
| Hey can i have a turbo and an engine upgrade on my trueno i wannt to have both |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 24 2007, 05:56 PM |
| @pen for me, i dont mind waiting each time i eject because it controls the amount of money i use in a particular day XD @Ryu_Fujiwara no i dont think u can have both....u can only pick one |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 24 2007, 08:55 PM | ||
Yes, given that you're driving a FT car. If you felt not to waste it, you can drive a non-FT car before the performance interval comes. After that you can eject the card and continue playing your FT car. |
| Posted by: MAFD Aug 25 2007, 02:50 AM |
| That's what I'm doing now with body shops. After I'm satisfied with the look of one car I get another and only play that car when body shop is due. Then I buy a body mod for that car and continue playing my main car. |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 25 2007, 03:18 AM |
| oh and btw guys u dont get anymore engine upgrade screens when u've FT'd your car |
| Posted by: ?wha? Aug 25 2007, 05:00 AM |
| well I would assume thats a bit obvious and with regards to clearing LotS and losing out your customisation shop/character roulette... If you're due for the roulette you will get it after bunta. I'm pretty sure from other's comments that each "eject" is merely continuing with credits ie. If you play 3 times, paying for each continue then eject, you should get whats next on eject. HOWEVER, battling someone 3 times in a row without adding more money won't. and they haven't fixed the TA problem for 1.2. ran a non PB that annihilated the 1st time on the machine by over 10 secs and it did not save it on >.> DODGY!!!! |
| Posted by: Ben Aug 25 2007, 05:49 AM | ||
I get that all the time.. Smashed a machine record at a couple of places around Melbourne on Tsu OB and they don't save... So pissed off.. Have to go do it again... Those CP3 corners mentioned earlier.. 142+ |
| Posted by: Ryu Fujiwara Aug 25 2007, 08:44 AM | ||
wich do you perfer i am goin for the engine. |
| Posted by: P*K Aug 25 2007, 10:07 AM | ||
no.. BodyKit 1 -> BodyKit 2 -> BodyKit 1 and so on.. V* woops.... silly me... *V |
| Posted by: Retsuka Aug 25 2007, 11:16 AM | ||
yes, my post wasnt a question mate. |
| Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 25 2007, 12:19 PM |
| Sorry if this has been asked before... I have a feeling it's a popular question: Is there a best way to tune a car? Like go 1 all around in order so it's completely even, or get engine to 7 first then 7 for intake/exhaust, etc. |
| Posted by: ac101 Aug 25 2007, 12:24 PM | ||
there u go, coastal =) it was on page 7 or 8...lol |
| Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 25 2007, 12:46 PM |
| Ahhh okay. Thanks! |
| Posted by: ChaosAngel Aug 25 2007, 02:19 PM |
| lolz yay my method of tuning is perfect XD @ Ryu Fujiwara it really depends on what u want, but i personally would got for the engine upgrade |
| Posted by: pinchakko Aug 25 2007, 07:08 PM |
| hey, how to get higher ranks like starting is D3 how to get those ppl got B1,A1,S2 lol, is it by the number of times clearing LoTS then up one rank? |
| Posted by: Kenji Aug 25 2007, 07:13 PM |
| No way we can up our ranks, aka 'levels' v1.2 patch eliminates those... |
| Posted by: Kaz01 Aug 25 2007, 10:19 PM |
| Hey I had a question. remember in v3 the difference between a FT car and a stock car was about 3-4 seconds? In v4 FT and stock are waay different in terms of times huh? cuz i thot i was pretty good in v3 but now im shit. im still step 2 in most of my parts and im getting worried cuz my times are still crap. |
| Posted by: echizenryoma Aug 25 2007, 10:22 PM | ||
Dun worry.. Possible to cut down times even when u r a stock... It is hw u corner and hw u pc |
| Posted by: Sly Aug 26 2007, 02:21 AM |
| man thrs this stock pro i noe tt, is so pro tt, he can beat a 3/5 tuned car with a stock... ^^ haha no offence =PP |
| Posted by: MAFD Aug 26 2007, 04:12 AM |
| Thing is in AS4 when you install a part you can actually notice the difference. I know I did, I noticed the understeer kicking in later/not kicking in at all on some corners after a few suspenion upgrades. Also I noticed acceleration and top speed gains. |