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bunta_boi | Posted: Dec 5 2002, 03:13 PM |
Billy Jean is not my lover ... Group: Advanced Members Posts: 586 Member No.: 68 Joined: Nov 1st 2002 Location: Update Profile | say u were to enter a drift with an FF, and then your rear swings out.......by letting off the gas, would that lengthen your drift? sure its slower, but going faster would juss get u out of the drift, right? so by slowly letting off the gas, you wouldnt pull on the back wheels as much, which would otherwise force your car to regain grip driving......right? please comment or correct
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]{aya | Posted: Dec 5 2002, 06:28 PM |
Old HOT PINK Schmuck Group: Advanced Members Posts: 841 Member No.: 47 Joined: Oct 16th 2002 Location: Montréal, Québec | we said it ...there is no such thing as FF drifting, but u can grip your FF if you want |
ImprezaSTi27 | Posted: Dec 5 2002, 07:31 PM |
IDW Prime Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 650 Member No.: 101 Joined: Nov 20th 2002 Location: San Diego, CA | I think the key behind a technique like that is shifting the weight enough so that when you're still on the throttle through the turn, you're matching the inertia of your rear wheels with your front throttle so that you're basically correcting yourself through the length of the turn. It's kind of like when you put trays under your rear wheels. Doing that just eliminates the grip of the rear tires and you're just flinging your rear around and correcting with your front steering and throttle. |
FWD,RWD,AWD | Posted: Dec 5 2002, 08:52 PM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 23 Member No.: 102 Joined: Nov 20th 2002 Location: Update Profile | on dry asphalt you'd have to be going pretty fast (actually very fast) to be able to produce lift-oversteer. this technique is best used for long curves, if you're going through a corner with too much power and you're understeering to some degree then you can lift-off (or a little) the gas this shifts weight to the front wheels, thus giving your steering wheel more grip to pull you back into the right direction. when the weight shifts to the front the rear may lose traction and skid, but as said before you'd have to be going very fast (unless there's rain or snow, etc. then this happens very easily). |
Jayson | Posted: Dec 5 2002, 10:12 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | NOT POSSIBLE TO DRIFT IN FF! As for your question, if you let off the gas, the car will spin out, in order to keep from spining out, you need to give it gas, because you are pulling the front ahead of the rear end. Hope that helps |
bunta_boi | Posted: Dec 6 2002, 03:38 PM |
Billy Jean is not my lover ... Group: Advanced Members Posts: 586 Member No.: 68 Joined: Nov 1st 2002 Location: Update Profile | yah thas why i said 'slowly letting off the gas'.....not getting off completely |
Jayson | Posted: Dec 6 2002, 08:35 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | still going to spin out, sorry |
teknoman | Posted: Dec 10 2002, 03:22 PM |
Unregistered | I think the FF can't drift at all. I have to agree with Jayson about that you see I went to inside drift overview click on this link it will give you all the details why can't an FF's can't drift http://velocity.isfaster.com/drift/overvie...ew/overview.htm |
tofu boy | Posted: Dec 10 2002, 03:34 PM |
IDW Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 89 Member No.: 55 Joined: Oct 22nd 2002 Location: Update Profile | If ur a master like the drift king, you probably can drift an FF. Infact, one of the cars the the drift king drives is an Integra R and he drifts(not ass drag) very well with that car. Just look for some of his videos. |
Alex | Posted: Dec 10 2002, 03:45 PM |
OG Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 9,054 Member No.: 111 Joined: Nov 26th 2002 Location: Atlanta | i say FF's can drift. maybe not as well as FR but i say they still can. it just takes a very skilled drifter to do it. |
]{aya | Posted: Dec 10 2002, 06:30 PM |
Old HOT PINK Schmuck Group: Advanced Members Posts: 841 Member No.: 47 Joined: Oct 16th 2002 Location: Montréal, Québec | dont you guys get it ????? THEY CANT ! laws of physics ?? do you know what this is ??? listen now k ?? when you try to "drift" an FF the front wheels are controling the drift (like in FR) A-N-D giving power...2 much work for 2 wheels at the same time this means the rear does NOTHING, while "drifting" an FF the rear is just there cuz a car as 4 wheels and couldnt run on only 2 wheels ...GET IT ?????? i didnt say you cant race an FF, but you cant use the technique called Drift.... |
karasac | Posted: Dec 10 2002, 09:01 PM | ||
Rotary Disciple Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,209 Member No.: 11 Joined: Aug 28th 2002 Location: Chino Hills, California |
didnt u just see us make swiss cheese of neo vash's "theory" on FF drifting on the pinned thread? and what the drift king is doing is just sliding, not drifting. | ||
Akain | Posted: Dec 13 2002, 12:57 AM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 28 Member No.: 106 Joined: Nov 22nd 2002 Location: Update Profile | HAHAHAHA...... More FF drifting theories.....Now those of us who know that you can't drift an FF are gonna fight the world it seems. I'm tired, the post about FF drifting just got murdered. here comes more people that say you can, but either lack HARD evidence or just don't know what drifting is. If a person REALLY drifts, then he/she would know its not possible to drift an FF, because he/she would understand the principles behind drifting Enough of this "FF's can drift" w/o actual proof. It's like saying "FF's can drift cuz I say so, and my word is the truth because......it is." I'm not trying to sound like a dick, but it's just that people who start this kind of BS confuse themselves and others. It's like a honda enthusiast getting mad at someone who keeps telling people "Honda's have pushrods" with no proof. As dumb as that may sound, saying ff's can drift is the same thing. Why would you want an FF to drift anyways, get an FR or AWD if you want to drift, who cares if FF's cant, that does not make them bad. Get some hard evidence of an FF drifting, when I see it, I will surrender in admittion that FF's can drift, but until then, someone should lock this or any other thread about FF drifting other than the one that has been PINNED. |
Jayson | Posted: Dec 13 2002, 10:01 AM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | lol, Akain's right on the money. We aren't saying FF's are bad race cars, just that they can't drift. Get another car if you want to drift. Simple as that. |
Guest | Posted: Dec 13 2002, 07:53 PM |
Unregistered | Where was this murdered post might I ask? |
bunta_boi | Posted: Dec 13 2002, 10:54 PM |
Billy Jean is not my lover ... Group: Advanced Members Posts: 586 Member No.: 68 Joined: Nov 1st 2002 Location: Update Profile | i was thinking for a bit and i thot about drifting FF.....since the car is already being dragged, drifting FF would only make it slower right?....the rear wheels messing up the whole 'car being dragged' thing by swinging out sideways.....i dont think that there would be much to gain from drifitng FF....im out! |
Chamber | Posted: Dec 13 2002, 11:45 PM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Member No.: 145 Joined: Dec 13th 2002 Location: Update Profile | please understand that when you race, the idea is to take each corner in the fastest way possible. Not to drift for show. If you dont have to drift or float a corner, then dont. |
FWD,RWD,AWD | Posted: Dec 13 2002, 11:58 PM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 23 Member No.: 102 Joined: Nov 20th 2002 Location: Update Profile | Correct, the goal in racing is to corner as fast as possible with the intention of achieving maximum exit speed. In some cases "drifting" a FWD is useful, see the video from my previous post "FWD keeping up with AWDs" |
Chamber | Posted: Dec 14 2002, 12:03 AM | ||
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Member No.: 145 Joined: Dec 13th 2002 Location: Update Profile |
I did see the video, and I didnt see the FWD car drift once. | ||
FWD,RWD,AWD | Posted: Dec 14 2002, 12:17 AM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 23 Member No.: 102 Joined: Nov 20th 2002 Location: Update Profile | If you're not paying attention, that's ok. |
Jayson | Posted: Dec 14 2002, 01:00 AM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | vid? there's a vid? |
Chamber | Posted: Dec 14 2002, 01:43 AM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Member No.: 145 Joined: Dec 13th 2002 Location: Update Profile | FWD, do you really know what drifting is? |
Jayson | Posted: Dec 14 2002, 01:47 AM | ||
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL |
I question if most of the people here know what it really means | ||
Chamber | Posted: Dec 14 2002, 01:50 AM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Member No.: 145 Joined: Dec 13th 2002 Location: Update Profile | it seems like most people think drifting is just sliding the rear end of your car around a corner =\ |
Jayson | Posted: Dec 14 2002, 01:56 AM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | agreed |
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